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Blow writes: "On Thursday, at a campaign stop in Iowa, the former House speaker said, 'Start with the following two facts: Really poor children in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working and have nobody around them who works. So they literally have no habit of showing up on Monday. They have no habit of staying all day. They have no habit of 'I do this and you give me cash' unless it's illegal.' (His second 'fact' was that every first generational person he knew started work early.)"

Newt Gingrich, former Speaker of the House and current GOP front-runner. (Photo: Dennis Van Tine/ABACAUSA.COM)
Newt Gingrich, former Speaker of the House and current GOP front-runner. (Photo: Dennis Van Tine/ABACAUSA.COM)


Newt's War on Poor Children

By Charles M. Blow, The New York Times

03 December 11

Newt Gingrich has reached a new low, and that is hard for him to do.

Nearly two weeks after claiming that child labor laws are “truly stupid” and implying that poor children should be put to work as janitors in their schools, he now claims that poor children don’t understand work unless they’re doing something illegal.

On Thursday, at a campaign stop in Iowa, the former House speaker said, “Start with the following two facts: Really poor children in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working and have nobody around them who works. So they literally have no habit of showing up on Monday. They have no habit of staying all day. They have no habit of ‘I do this and you give me cash’ unless it’s illegal.” (His second “fact” was that every first generational person he knew started work early.)

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+99 # Barbara K 2011-12-03 10:53
This self-grandized jerk isn't worth the dirt on the bottom of the feet or shoes of a poor child. He had to leave politics in disgrace, paying a $300,000 fine. How anyone considers him to be presidential material is something only his idiotic followers would think.

NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN !!
 
 
+17 # X Dane 2011-12-03 17:12
Unfortunately at times he can say something that makes sense in between all the disgusting putdowns, so people "eat it all, but he is a nasty conceited jerk, who appeal to other jerks, who do not like people, who are not wealthy.
 
 
+5 # MainStreetMentor 2011-12-04 20:41
The caption for the photo accompanying this article (with Gingrich holding up two fingers): "Yes, and this represents my total IQ".
 
 
+24 # Progressive Patriot 2011-12-03 23:14
How anyone considers _any_ of the Republicans to be "presidential" is baffling to me.
 
 
+12 # MainStreetMentor 2011-12-04 08:14
Obviously, (to me), Gingrich possesses the IQ of a grape – evidenced by his “rationale” concerning children and work. His history suggests he is very good at manipulating existing facts, and fabricating (out of thin air) others – and he is exceptionally good at “selling” the results of those efforts – because he is selling his “exports” to a group of un-educated, ill-informed, truth-less, clue-less substrata of Americans who can only rubber-stamp that which is placed before them. Gingrich realized that early in his adult life, and has exploited it ever since. In reality, he possess all the appeal of a stomped-on-frog . None of his “ideas” will hold water upon close examination. Newt Gingrich: Poster-child for Zeros.
 
 
+1 # RLF 2011-12-05 03:48
VOTE THIRD PARTY!
 
 
-91 # MidwestTom 2011-12-03 11:16
I hate to admit this, but the company I work for can confirm everything Gingrich said. We have over the years probably hired 15 to 20 from the poorest neighborhoods. Not a one has stayed over six months , while the majority of our employees have been with us more than 10 years. Their excuses for not showing up or being late are almost worthy of a book. Our HR person has said that if he could ask one question ( which she cannot ) she would like to ask if an applicant was raised in a single parent household. Now all of non-employers, and Gingrich haters can jump on this, but this is reality.
 
 
+89 # ABen 2011-12-03 12:51
Tom; perhaps a rather myopic view of things. I owned my own business for 15 years (during Reagan and daddy Bush) and regularly hired high school students who came from poverty situations. I found no endemic lack of "work ethic" among these young people beyond the occasional phone cal to let me know an employee would be late. I made their duties and responsibilitie s clear when I hired them, gave them responsible jobs, and expected quality work. One stayed with me long enough to be offered the position of foreman, and he acquitted himself quite well. He only left to get married, move to Texas, and start a similar business on his own. The employees I found least reliable were those who came from comfortable situations--the y seemed to treat work as "optional."
 
 
+37 # X Dane 2011-12-03 17:06
ABen, I can second that one. When I bought a small restaurant I hired some highschool girls. We live in a upper middle-class neigborhood. There was lots of cleaning and sproocing up needed before we opened the doors.

When I asked one of the girls to help clean up in the bathroom. She looked at me with disgust, and informed me that she was not Mexican!!

Another wanted a raise,.. she had barely started, she told me, that THEN she would really show me how good she was???
I made it clear to her, that she had that wrong. ....First you show competence, then....you may get a raise

I later hired Latinos and work got done well and without whining...One girl actually cried and said that she could not sweep floors? I did all kinds of work myself besides the cooking.

Some poor young people may not have learned work ethics, so you have a talk with the person at the time of hiring and spell out EXACTLY what you want and expect, whenever possible praise work well done. It is very important. We all want to be appreciated
 
 
+3 # RLF 2011-12-05 03:52
I think that you are right. It is a generational thing...the lack of work ethic...probabl y more related to two worker household where no one makes kids do any household chores or anything they don't want to do...because it takes time and work and your kid might not be your best friend...or have low self esteem!
 
 
+2 # X Dane 2011-12-06 02:06
Yes Rlf. sadly many parents are so busy making a living, and earlier, when times were good, they would give their children way too much. They should have taken the time to instruct and teach them how to clean, cook and take care of a home, and also have jobs to save for the bigger things they want.

Both our two daughters and our son did babysitting jobs, the girls, and my son had a paper route. When they were 16 they all had the money saved for their first car.
That was in the mid seventies, and you could get a nice used car for 2000 dollars. My son bought a beautiful 240 Z.

They took good care of their cars, for they knew what it took to get them.
They are all very successful.

My oldest daughter got the catering business I started, and the younget became first an accountant, and now she has a her own business with two partners, Financial planning. In spite of the hard times they are doing very well, and she is taking care of my, hard earned money
My son had his own business at 23 and very successful too. but sadly he was killed in a plain crash at 23.
 
 
+2 # X Dane 2011-12-06 02:12
Continued
This is not to show off rather to illustrate that if you take the time to teach kids good work ethics, and that nothing in life is free, you give them the best start in life.

And drugs were never an issue for they had to EARN their money. Kids who get generous allowances, do not know the value of money.
 
 
+28 # Progressive Patriot 2011-12-03 23:18
The most extreme example of recent years being George W. Bush, who took more vacations from the presidency than anyone in history. The man has never been successful at anything he's ever done in his adult life.
 
 
+15 # CL38 2011-12-04 08:49
When Bush was a business owner (corporations started with money from daddy's cronies who wanted to curry favor with daddy) he mismanaged the companies and their finances - in the same way he later did to the country.

If people had just read about who he was, many would never have voted for him and we wouldn't be in this mess.
 
 
+8 # RLF 2011-12-05 03:53
He made money on the baseball team by getting the tax payers to build him a nice new stadium. He only made money with a government bailout! Sound familiar?
 
 
+26 # gentle 2011-12-03 13:32
This is reality Tom, very real. Children make bad choices and corporations will take advantage.


The couple were out of town at the time of the accident, returned Tuesday afternoon to the muddy, 160-acre farm field near Tampico, Ill.

They said they were saddened by the news of the deaths and for the girls' families.

Jade Garza, 14, and Hannah Kendall, 14, both of Sterling, were working for Monsanto Corp. when, the company says, they and two other detasselers were electrically shocked by a center pivot irrigation system. The four were taken to CGH Medical Center in Sterling, where Jade and Hannah were pronounced dead. Another victim remained at CGH for observation while the fourth was airlifted to OSF St. Anthony Medical Center in Rockford and was listed in critical condition Tuesday.

The Whiteside County Sheriff's Office said several others felt the shock and were treated on the scene.

The farm is one of several owned by the Matthews couple, who live in Walnut. They contract with Monsanto for the planting and harvesting of their corn crop, saying the company educates its workers on the possible dangers of irrigation systems.

Read more: http://www.qctimes.com/news/local/whiteside-detasseling-deaths-raise-questions/article_c4afb46c-b6ea-11e0-a516-001cc4c03286.html#ixzz1fVdapWTM
 
 
+36 # pernsey 2011-12-03 14:13
Quoting MidwestTom:
I hate to admit this, but the company I work for can confirm everything Gingrich said. We have over the years probably hired 15 to 20 from the poorest neighborhoods. Not a one has stayed over six months , while the majority of our employees have been with us more than 10 years. Their excuses for not showing up or being late are almost worthy of a book. Our HR person has said that if he could ask one question ( which she cannot ) she would like to ask if an applicant was raised in a single parent household. Now all of non-employers, and Gingrich haters can jump on this, but this is reality.


So this is your rationalization for making poor children work a job, that currently a grown man has that supports his family? Yeah so in other words those annoying poor people are unreliable and can only make money doing illegal things? MidwestTom I hate to admit the ignorance of your post, but whoomp there it is!!
 
 
+24 # humanmancalvin 2011-12-03 15:15
MidwestTom, as much as you hate to admit it, no doubt it truly pains such a saint such as yourself, you had to make a sweeping denigration and stereotype based on some rather faulty non-scientific research. Just wondering Mr. MWTom, do you attend a Christian church on Sundays and praise Jesus the Prince of Peace and Prophet of the Poor? What exactly is the biblical verse? What you shall do to the least of thee you shall do to me? Something in that ballpark I believe Mr. MW Tom.
Save this country and vote straight democrat(ic) this voting season.
 
 
+17 # Karlus58 2011-12-03 16:52
..and how were they treated in their work environment? It's a two way street, relationships/p reconceptions.
 
 
+19 # Bruce Gruber 2011-12-03 17:38
MidwestTom:
A study of your company's patterns and practices might provide significant insight into work tasks, hiring practices (including recruitment, compensation, and benefits) with retention. However no study would provide explanation for the logical discontinuity of your faith in Newt, your apparent longevity with your company, and the unbelievable attribution of excuses being the fault of single parentage. There are so many implied biases within your five sentence statement. The essence of self-righteous conservative fundamentalism and authoritative blind resentment of inclusiveness beams darkly from your feelings.
 
 
+3 # michelle 2011-12-03 21:41
Bourgois has written an ethnography, In Search of Respect, that examines why it is so difficult for the working poor, especially men, to make it in our society. He looks at the origins of poverty in Harlem and the impact of nafta on the working poor. it's a real eye opener if you want to understand the situation rather than simply judge the situation.
 
 
+40 # BobbyLip 2011-12-03 11:22
And Newt is the smartest guy in the room--of course that's a room full of Republicans!
 
 
+8 # Progressive Patriot 2011-12-03 23:26
I'm not sure he's the smartest, but he's the one who has the best pile of cow pies.
 
 
+44 # Mickeyfilm 2011-12-03 11:24
This is a great oped by Charles Blow. Mr. Blow references surveys and facts when presenting his case against the comments of Gingrich. It seems that most Republicans enjoy and insist on presenting their points without referencing facts or studies. I believe that most of the Republican audience of these candidates don't slightly care whether or not something is factual as presented by their candidates. As long as it appeals the their anger against the vast middle class, then they are satisfied without the need for facts. In my opinion, this is one of the saddest moments in American history. Democracy is based on the need of a very informed electorate, even though the founders felt that should be male land owners over 21. What is also sad is that Gingrich is the most intelligent of the Republican candidates, which speaks volumes considering how he often presents arguments devoid of facts or morals. I continue to remember days back in the '50s when their were intelligent Republican candidates and elected officials. I think most of the reason the Republican candidates have such a disrespect of facts is that their core audience of Republican voters seem to hate facts. This very same group of voters is actually being manipulated to support things such as rejecting Democratic health care laws and proposals which they need very much. The list of examples goes on and on.
 
 
+34 # Lolanne 2011-12-03 12:01
This is one despicable worm out of a whole repugnant party of them. He needs to crawl away on his belly under the nearest rock and STAY THERE! It is utterly unbelievable that some people actually like this slimy jerk. HOW can people be so blind? Or can people really be so lacking in compassion and morals that they honestly agree with him?
 
 
+40 # Adoregon 2011-12-03 12:02
Let's have a look at Newt's daily calendar for the past 20 years and see how many Mondays he has gotten out of bed early to go to "work."

Let's also look very closely where his loot comes from.

newt [noot, nyoot] noun
1.
any of several brilliantly colored salamanders of the family Salamandridae, especially those of the genera Triturus and Notophthalmus, of North America, Europe, and northern Asia.
2.
any of various other small salamanders.

Slang Dictionary
newt definition: noun
a stupid person; a dull and uninteresting person.

What else do you need to know?
 
 
+23 # jooberdoober 2011-12-03 13:22
Newts live under rocks.
 
 
+22 # Glen 2011-12-03 16:14
Please please please do not insult newts and salamanders. They have a life and the dignity of being a delicate, worthy creature.

Gingrich is a human slime with no dignity and no worth.
 
 
+22 # Sallyport 2011-12-03 12:41
Midwest Tom's figures are SO striking that questions immediately rise as to the the atmosphere and working conditions at Tom's workplace.
 
 
+19 # sol4u2 2011-12-03 12:48
Newt really shows his qualities for being elected president. You can find research to back up any idea but if you have worked with poor kids and understood how they are beaten down each day yet still want to succeeed if given the chance you will know that Newt's words are being proven wrong across the country. Maybe not in the huge numbers but one young person at a time who gets a mentor, is given a boost to their self-esteem each by a teacher or adult who cares, gets a chance to participate in a special program this is where it counts. One child at a time who learns that he can get a fair shake and have a chance at success!! Each of us can be that one person who makes a change in a poor kid's life. Statistic are not set in stone, poverty is not set in stone and with today's economny - how many successful, middle class individuals are finding themselves on the brink of poverty. I know, I am one of them - but I know that tomorrow can be different. This is what those who live in poverty need to be shown!
 
 
+19 # reiverpacific 2011-12-03 12:54
I just LOVE this photograph.
In the UK, it represents what you use one middle finger for here. In others words "Up your's"! -Doesn't that just say it all about the Grincher (or rather "Go fuck yourself, I've got mine!").
Again as has been I've quoted before in other posts seasonall "Are there no Workhouses, no Prisons?".
 
 
+7 # Progressive Patriot 2011-12-03 23:40
Do you mean Workhouses and prisons for TeaTHUGliKKKlan s?
 
 
+4 # reiverpacific 2011-12-04 16:13
Quoting Progressive Patriot:
Do you mean Workhouses and prisons for TeaTHUGliKKKlans?

Check out "A Christmas Carol" by Chuck the Dickens.
 
 
+30 # teineitalia 2011-12-03 12:55
Newt the Narcissist has done it again. He has pushed others down to build himself up. Way to go, Newt, baby. Who are you going to turn on next, orphans? widows?

what a sorry excuse for a human being this man is.. pandering to the lowest of the low in a whacked out party of crazy teapots, he's just ginning 'em up for the next round. Not content to have his 15 minutes of fame, he wants an extra hour or two, so he fans the flames of hatred, bigotry, arrogance and hypocricy with his own special take on "the facts". Hard to believe he is currently the "front runner" for the GOP. Have all lost their souls?
 
 
+6 # Progressive Patriot 2011-12-03 23:43
Like I said, Newt may not be the smartest among them, but he's got the biggest pile of cow pies.
 
 
+5 # CL38 2011-12-04 07:50
For all their spewing about religion....jud ging by their behavior, the right doesn't seem very concerned about the state of their 'souls' or that they have souls to lose They seem to think that they can do or say just about anything and then just go to church and confess or wash it all away in the blood of the 'lamb', etc., and they'll be 'forgiven' everything.

Appalling.
 
 
0 # Cassandra2012 2011-12-06 14:55
And apparently 'family values' (newt was THE 'family values' candidate) include adultery and serving your wife divorce papers as she emerges from anesthesia for a mastectomy!
 
 
+26 # Midwestgeezer 2011-12-03 12:56
Of course, those really well-off children in really well-off neighborhoods all have habits of working and have people around them who work. HARD! Except, of course, those who have never had to work and who never will have to "work". The parking lot at our local high school is full of cars that I'd bet were bought by mom & dad and the kids are on an allowance.

If Hypocrisy and ignorance were painful this jerk would qualify for a vicodin prescription!
 
 
+29 # fredboy 2011-12-03 12:59
Newt underscores the GOP's Achilles heel: hatred of the poor.

Such hatred flies in the face of the teachings of all faiths of goodness.

Any nation endorsing such sentiments is doomed.
 
 
+5 # Progressive Patriot 2011-12-03 23:50
Unfortunately, the poor are too busy working to have to thnk about politics long enough to realize that the TeaTHUGliKKKlan s don't care about them, they only want their vote. That's is why the "news" outlets are bribed to promote the TeaTHUGs over the party that actually cares about the well-being of American Citizens.

Yeah, I know that there are Democrats that have sold out to the corporations, but there are still a lot of people in the Democratic Party who _are_ working in the best interests of the majority of Americans. Today's Congress is a continual source of frustration to them, too.
 
 
+4 # CL38 2011-12-04 07:47
I don't think it's hatred as much as it is that the poor serve as a convenient scapegoat; the right believes they're superior to the poor, so this gives them the right to judge. They impose harsh punishments and penalties to 'teach' the poor. (They're big into punishments and giving others--never themselves--a harsh dose of reality.

Republicans are committed to being right --about everything. They never waver from this position. So there's never any recognition that they could be dead wrong. To ensure that they're right, their 'belief' becomes a matter of principle.

If the right ever admitted the possibility of being wrong, they'd have to acknowledge the damage their policies have created. And that's a no-no. Because then the right would have to change their behavior.

And if we've seen anything over the last decade, we've seen that the right is determined to rather stay stuck in the same groove, imposing the same 'remedies' over and over--even though they don't work. So...why don't their remedies don't work? The poor are just lazy.
 
 
+17 # bswein99 2011-12-03 13:02
Sure there are poor kids who don't stick with a job, but they're hardly alone. The "lazy intern"--almost always a relatively well-off kid who can afford to work without pay--has become such a standard feature of certain workplaces that he/she's given birth to an SNL skit. Most people who write about these things have spent very little (or no) time doing the kind of repetitive and menial work that Newt sees as an "opportunity" for poor children. When we do, it's as a summer job that we know will soon end. But a poor kid from a poor neighborhood could reasonably assume that this is all the future holds for him/her; under those circumstances, I would figure out a good excuse for not showing up for work.
 
 
+17 # Mermaid19 2011-12-03 13:08
Education is the key. In lieu of being critical why not explore education and what it is providing for all of our children. To make the comment he made demonstrates how inadequate he is to even run. Who is he to make judgements, look how his political life shows what he is made of. $300,000 fine for Ethic Violation. I guess his background and childhood demonstrates lack of values and integrity. Newt please just be quiet.
 
 
+5 # CL38 2011-12-04 07:42
"education is the key". We ALL understand this, even Republicans who pretend like they they don't get it. And what has the right done about education?: cut school budgets, dumbed down the system, bought control of our media to get propaganda out to the 'masses' to make it easier for the right to take over and rule permanently.

The right has no interest in a real education for the middle class and poor. In their view, quality education is for THEIR families, not for the poor.
 
 
+15 # Carolyn 2011-12-03 13:10
What is Newt's suggestion to remedy the situation of poor children?
It is very easy to find fault with any and everything in the world. It is all dualistic. Anyone can snap his or her fingers and make a judgement about anything -- aboujt the stupidity of my comment and find many who would agree and many who would disagree.
We are not animals. We can change the lives of the next generation to come. That is what we as human beings are here for -- to raise the level of consciousness. Is he arguing for better education, ensuring for all people,the basic needs of food,, warmth and shelter?
 
 
+6 # Progressive Patriot 2011-12-03 23:55
His "solution" is for all those poor kids to not be born, or to die before they become a burden on society.

Personally, I think all men of "privilege" should be neutered ... before they can reproduce.
 
 
0 # X Dane 2011-12-06 02:24
Now there's a thought Progressive.
 
 
+18 # humanmancalvin 2011-12-03 13:15
Truly a terrifying prospect: President Newt Gingrich.
Hold your nose if you must, but this voting season vote pure Democrat(ic) & hold the Blue Dogs please. Last nights party line vote that will raise poor/middle class taxes while softening the burden of the wealthy should be all the proof that even the sane of the Republican party need to rebel against the party of and for the 1%. Surely there are still some sane Republicans???? ?
 
 
+3 # Progressive Patriot 2011-12-03 23:58
I keep wishing for an Eisenhower Republican, but I'd even settle for a few Goldwaters, right about now.
 
 
+12 # daveapostles 2011-12-03 13:39
Yeah, just like that poor Paris Hilton and Tamara Ecclestone - deprived childhood so no sense of a fair day's work for a fair day's pay. Of course, you could do a Chelsea Clinton and marry an investment banker/private equity fund 'entrepreneur'.
 
 
+1 # X Dane 2011-12-06 02:44
Dave Please, don't knock Chelsie. I think Bill and Hillary did a splendid job, bringing her up. She has always behaved excemplary.

You never heard anything bad about her when she was growing up, and you KNOW the press would have been all over her had there been the slightest reason.

I felt really sorry for her when she was in college, and the Monika Levinski case was going on. That must have been pure hell.
I have nothing but respect for her. Also her wedding was not a publicity circus.
It was obviously a beautiful happy private affair.

She didn't NEED to marry an investment banker, after a fine education, she got a very good job, and made good money. She didn't need to MARRY IT.
 
 
+19 # pernsey 2011-12-03 13:46
The poor kids he talks about are a lot like him, ACCEPT Newt shows up for work lies,cheats, and steals and gets paid for it. Only a self centered, republican narcissist would listen to anything he has to say.

GOP stands for Greedy One Percent!

NEVER EVER VOTE REPUBLICAN!!
 
 
+21 # HerbR 2011-12-03 14:33
...and the rich children ? One guesses they'll have to suffer for never having to work at all, like their parents and other relatives !!
 
 
+10 # tedrey 2011-12-03 15:04
There really are such poor kids, though Gingrich's sweeping claims are trash. The progressive approach to them is to help lift them out of poverty, and give them better living environments and education. By Gingrich's own logic) they will then achieve a work ethic and become contrhibuting members of society. The Republican approach, on ythe other hand, is to leave them in poverty and ignorance, and get them behind bar as soon as possible.
 
 
+6 # Progressive Patriot 2011-12-04 00:06
Unfortunately, we also need to educate the management class, if the poor are ever to be treated with dignity.

I took management training when I was promoted to a shift supervisor position, and the _first_ thing they drummed into us was, "Don't insult the intelligence of the people who work for you."

I've worked for so many _really_ ignorant people who never learned that.
 
 
+16 # zietlowc 2011-12-03 15:14
Where does Newt Gingrich come up with these myths? Has he ever met a "really poor" person who has to scramble to work hard from morning to night to keep body and soul together? There are hundreds of millions of them in this country. And our systems are set up to make it very difficult for people who have little to do anything--drive a car, find a job, interact with their children's teachers, find medical and dental care. Let him spend a day in the shoes of one "really poor" person and find out what hard work foraging and scraping by "really" takes. I have worked for years with many people who have nothing and have found them perhaps not always sophisticated or skilled, but almost always committed to take care of their families. Newt Gingrich is not only callous, mean-spirited and arrogant. He is ignorant of reality. And he doesn't even know it.
 
 
+6 # Progressive Patriot 2011-12-04 00:10
Newt's never met a person who gets up at 4:00AM starts work at their day job at 6:00AM, gets off at 2:30, then goes to their evening job by 3:00PM, and works until 11:00PM. They _might_ get ti bed by midnight, to get up at 4:00AM to start all over again.
 
 
+5 # CL38 2011-12-04 07:36
Al Sharpen (Politics Nation) says he does know....that he and Newt visited schools teaching poor kids where some of the issues were discussed.

He just doesn't care. His rhetoric about the poor is just a means of scoring points with the 'base' for this self-congratula tory sociopath. He's using them, like he uses everyone, in his quest to snare the Presidency.
 
 
+17 # RMDC 2011-12-03 15:27
Conservatives are always for "family values" and children only when the children are white and middle class. Conservatives like Newt are racists and classists of the worst sort. We know what you are Newt. You are southern scum.

No one learns the value of hard work alone. It has to be taught by society. That is a social responsibility -- the education of children. The US is failing miserably in its educational system. And scum like Newt exist to blame the victims.
 
 
+8 # bobby t. 2011-12-03 16:35
mermaid 19 is correct. education of the right sort is the key. i worked most of my 33 years as a teacher with poor mostly black students in miami. i have just finished a book that may change elementary education forever. i am in the process of field testing it with today's teachers. my method of teaching reading can get a child who is reading pre primer to literate in ten hours.(no phonics). my methods of teaching math led me to runner up for dade county math teacher of the year in 1986. the key is education. many of my ex students are lawyers and doctors now. all they needed was the self esteem that is only gotten by performing well. they got that and that was all they needed. so newt, two fingers to you.....
 
 
+2 # Okieangels 2011-12-03 18:13
What's the name of the book?
 
 
+4 # Doubter 2011-12-03 18:40
Your endeavor appears quite praiseworthy.
It is my sincere hope you are not being naive in expecting it to be accepted and adopted. I believe there is a lot of inertia in the system.
Besides, I've always thought the educational system was designed to keep people ignorant; barely able to read and follow simple directions and instructions.
I really do wish you all the luck in the world and that I may be wrong in my surmises.
 
 
+4 # Progressive Patriot 2011-12-04 00:18
that's certainly the education "system" of today, but it wasn't true when I was growing up. Today's students are not getting the education that my generation received, and it's not the fault of students or teachers. Educational "management" by those who want to turn it into a for-profit business is ignorant and regressive. The real profit in education is when you graduate an intelligent, capable workforce, and for that you need _educators_ running the system, all the way from the classroom to the top management, not business people.
 
 
+2 # in deo veritas 2011-12-05 11:13
Bravo! As a retired educator of 36 years I have seen what you describe taking place where bean-counters direct everything that is done in the schools. Technology will not replace those of us who put the students first and foremost. Computers don't care-like politicians they are bought and paid for. In education it is not the blind leading the blind-it is rather the blind to rfeality directing those who see, hear, think, and care on the road to nihilism.
 
 
0 # X Dane 2011-12-06 14:58
How exiting Bobby, we should hear more about your ideas. Please let us, who are commenting here, know what the name of your book is so we can recommend it to teacher friends, and whoever else can benefit from your experience.

You are so right about self esteem. Too many don't realize that it takes hard work, and immersing yourself in what it is you want to achieve.

When you succeed, you will have a good self esteem, for you DID it and you sure feel good about yourself, and ready to tackle what comes along next.

Good luck with your book, and please send it to Arne Duncan and the White House. Our country need more people like you. Thank you for your important work.
 
 
+12 # Bob-Investigates 2011-12-03 16:59
AH, and let's not forget how Nebulous, Nefarious, Numb-Nuts Newt has treated his wives. He divorced his first wife while she was in a hospital being treated for cancer. That goes a long way to the conclusion that Newt has (1) no respect for women (2) no respect for average Americans or poor Americans and(3) not a care in the world about our soldiers dying in far-off wars. Bottom line: I wouldn't trust Newt to pick up my garbage and I think he's an escapee from a septic tank (just think what floats in there.) Bottom, bottom line: a turd is a turd even if it is "highly educated."
 
 
+8 # wwway 2011-12-03 17:24
Should we be surpirsed? Republicans, Newt in particular have been very vocal about how they plan to send this country back in time 200+ years. Children were used in the mines because it was believed they took less oxygen. Children took the canaries into the mines to test the air. Children are the first victims in econimic crisis and civilan casualties in war. Newt loves history and knows that children have always been........exp endable. Until the progressive movement began in 1890's. Look, any middle class American who votes Republican is a chicken for Col. Sanders...their children tests for oxygen as well as waste handlers as janitors in our schools. They will work without protections and die on the job just like those children who have gone before.
If cruel government is what the people want they will certainly vote Republican.
 
 
+4 # Mouna 2011-12-03 18:14
I think this Mr. Nuwt boy has just cut off his dingaling!
 
 
+2 # Progressive Patriot 2011-12-04 00:21
It should have been cut off long ago.
 
 
-4 # Jake 2011-12-03 19:48
I wish I could be PC about what Newt said, I'm certainly not a fan of his, but unfortunately he is speaking of an underculture that does exist. I don't know if I agree with his answer to this problem, you can't go into someone's home and tell them to buy their kid a book or them them to monmitor their kid's homework or to be involved in their kid's life and education, but something needs to be done to help this underclass to become part of the mainstream.
 
 
+7 # Progressive Patriot 2011-12-04 00:25
The first thing to be done is to stop treating them as an "underclass".

But we also need to educate the "upperclass" to the fact that _everyone_ has value and deserves respect.
 
 
+12 # pernsey 2011-12-03 20:19
I hate to say it but I noticed some patterns with republicans:

They have the idea that I got mine so screw everyone else. They claim to be the religious right, but they want to make children slaves, rich people richer, end freedom of speech, and trample all over the middle class. Some vote against their own best interests, and have no ability to think for themselves.

Why do they hate helping others? Why do they call unemployment... money for doing nothing, when people paid into the system? Why are they so prejudice against anyone who isnt just like them? Because they dont seem to have a conscience, not all but the ones posting here seem to be very hard on anyone who cant do what they could do, or didnt have the opportunities they had. So their thinking of people who grew up in not the greatest of circumstances is, to make them child laborers because some multi millionaire thinks they dont have a good work ethic...well duh!!

As much as I hated to say all this its what I observed from the republicans on this forum.

Arent sweeping generalizations just grand?
 
 
+10 # CL38 2011-12-04 09:54
if you haven't already, read Republican John Dean's book, "Conservatives without Conscience". It's terrific -- it shows the beliefs of those on the extreme right and the lengths to which they'll go, to get what they want. Anyone who reads it will NEVER vote republican again (unless they're already one of the far right.).
 
 
+6 # Barbara K 2011-12-04 15:26
CL38, you are so correct. I have that book and it is a real eye opener. Everyone should read it. These are a bunch of heartless freaks.

NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN
 
 
+1 # X Dane 2011-12-06 02:54
Yep pernsey, I bet it felt good getting it off your chest
 
 
+3 # futhark 2011-12-03 20:32
I love the picture of Gingrich at the head of this article. I understand that in Britain, the hand signal he is giving is not "V for victory", but "F--k you and your mother, too".

Any Brits out there want to comment?
 
 
+4 # bobby t. 2011-12-03 21:34
okieangel and doubter,
grandpa charlie and the eisenhower principle is the working title. and unfortunely doubter, i know what you mean and it is true. in my chapter on reading i make it clear that there are societies that make the language hard to read and hard to spell on purpose. it keeps the educated in power. remember literacy tests in the south?
 
 
+2 # Progressive Patriot 2011-12-04 00:30
That's why so many "educated" people don't know the difference between there, they're, and their, and other such incorrect word usage.
 
 
+5 # mwd870 2011-12-04 04:27
Opinions go back and forth about whether Newt will end up as the GOP frontrunner. However, he has so much baggage, it is difficult (for me) to imagine him even coming close to winning in the general election. His conversion to Catholicism and theory that past sins are now forgiven is not going to make up for his conviction for corruption during his tenure in the Senate and all the other examples of his why he is not fit for the office of the Presidency. Not to mention he has as many flip-flops on record as Romney and he is a repulsive person.
 
 
+5 # Travlinlight 2011-12-04 06:38
Working parents struggling on poverty-level incomes are far better role models and exemplars of a work ethic than CEOs of investment banks who have made billions through shadow banking schemes and mortgage scams. "Loot Grinch-rich" is amazingly obtuse if he truly believes what he has said abour poor communities and the people in them--amazingly obtuse or just one more rotten example of Social Darwinist crap parading as serious social analysis. Every humanly decent individual with a modicum of common sense and goodwill should want to piss on the grave of William Graham Sumner, the execrable lout who first came uo with the Social Darwinist notion.
 
 
+4 # CL38 2011-12-04 07:31
What this self-obsessed blowhard doesn't get is that the poor work MANY times harder than the wealthy:

they work several jobs to make ends meet and they don't have help (nannies, gardeners, cooks, maids, chauffeurs, etc.).

So in addition to working several jobs for minimum wage, they have to find time to parent and care for children, help with homework, prepare meals, clean homes, shop for food and supplies, transport families to appointments--o ften all on public transportation which takes longer than driving.

The rich assume they know so much about the lives and realities of middle class and poor families when they actually have very little accurate, first-hand information or understanding. The right harbors self-serving, biased rationalization s for the discrimination they practice on a regular basis.
 
 
+1 # X Dane 2011-12-06 03:07
CL 38, the poor do work so much harder, that is right, the sad part is that it is murderously hard for them to get ahead because they are paid so little.
And as you said so much time is wasted on public transportation.

When my kids were growing up I told them to work hard in school, so that later they could work with their heads, and not wear out their bodies with hard physical labor.
 
 
+6 # CL38 2011-12-04 10:47
Gingrich's hypocrisy on the issue of work is unbelievable. When he was a student (from a PBS Frontline piece on Gingrich) he called his father for financial help, saying “I do not want to go to work. I want all my time for my studies.” His wife, Jackie, put him all the way through his PhD. He didn’t work. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/newt/vanityfair3.html
 
 
+2 # foxglove16 2011-12-04 14:14
“Start with the following two facts: Really poor children in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working and have nobody around them who works. So they literally have no habit of showing up on Monday. They have no habit of staying all day. They have no habit of ‘I do this and you give me cash’ unless it’s illegal.”

Given that he is an a**hole of epic proportions and no one I want to be president, and given he has all the tact of a charging Rhino I have to say this: He's right. Not for everyone maybe, but what kind of naive twits are we if we refuse to see there are people out there who need role models? If what you see is unemployment and hopelessness, where are you going to learn how to do differently? If we want to solve poverty it has to be through mentoring and education and giving people work early in life. It's his tactless way of saying it, including calling in a stereotype dead in job like being a janitor. Being a janitor or housekeeper - which was incidentally how I put myself through my B.S., it a necessary and useful job, but it calls to mind the 40's and 50's when even a college educated black person could get no other job because of employment discrimination.
 
 
+4 # giraffee2012 2011-12-04 22:12
I don[t think all those Southern Evangelicals are all rich. Wonder what they think will happen to their children if Newt has his way.

This is one more indication the Rebugs are racists, bigots and are for the 1%.

The Norquest Cult will take the USA down if they get voted in.

DO NOT SIT AT HOME on election day. Register early + mail-in ballots and get those who need an ID registered also. It is crucial.
BARBARAK is right. Vote DEM in 2012. In 2016 the OWS will have a 3rd party or maybe Bernie Sanders/Alan Grayson will run.
 
 
+5 # Norm2 2011-12-05 09:01
There are many working poor and working people with no medical insurance. My family worked more than one job each. We were still uninsured. We were still poor. My family worked harder and longer days than most people in Congress. Don't just base poverty on unemployed on unemployment numbers and work ethics on income. In my experience in teaching, I found the kids from poor families to be the ones more likely to be working in fast-food restaurants and at low-paying jobs because they needed the money. They didn't have time for extra-credit and enrichment projects.They were often tired and sleepy from working the night before. The richer students were enjoying the extra-curricula r activities the poor students could afford. He who acquates poverty with not working is naive and does not have an understanding of what is going on in the United States. To take it further, if what Mr. Guingrich is saying is true, wouldn't it also mean the women who have husbands to support them and are homemakers do not model work skills? And those who are rich and don't have to work - aren't their kids lacking a knowledge of work skills, too? My father and his brother were both taken from school and put to work full-time in the mines at age l3 because his widowed mother needed the money. His lungs were ruined. That's why there are child labor laws.
 
 
0 # lionsdenmother 2011-12-05 17:53
oh my you are so right, not that i agreed with gingrinch but my mom had to drop out of school to take care of her siblings as her mother died so young of cancer. NO heath care. i forget just how lucky i am to have a job some time. Also you made me think about our public schools had we not had schools for ALL children to go to many of those poor would never have learned to read or write.
 
 
+2 # in deo veritas 2011-12-05 11:04
Just eliminate the index finger in the picture you show of Newt Gangrene and you have a perfect picture of his attitude toward us all and what he intends to do if elected!
 
 
+2 # noitall 2011-12-05 13:45
If only all these crackers spoke their minds truthfully, we'd know who is stabbing us in the back. At least we know where Newt is coming from; someplace other than where he thinks he is. Newt represents those who are in power today. They have no idea of reality. Pretty sad, really. He'd have to be ignorant in order to live with himself.
 
 
+1 # lionsdenmother 2011-12-05 17:40
Scrooge " Are there now work houses! Are there no prisions"
 

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