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Excerpt: "I like American cars,” Romney said ... No doubt he does, since he's built his own cars, Ann's Cadillacs included, their very own elevator. Obama must make it crystal clear that his first priority has been to help the American workers who make the cars."

Frank Rich (photo: Brigette Lacombe)
Frank Rich (photo: Brigette Lacombe)

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+50 # MainStreetMentor 2012-10-24 06:11
Financial successes in the business world are not necessarily a "blueprint" for success in government. The "Peter Principle", (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle), comes to mind for both Romney and Ryan. For these two to attain the highest elected offices in our land, means they would attain the "highest level of incompetency" and, in this case, would spell absolute disaster for America.
 
 
+15 # Granny Weatherwax 2012-10-24 08:18
If I may, the Peter principle does not apply if you reach the top job: you don't stop climbing because of incompetence but because there is no higher step.

It turns out, though that you are right in that Romney is actually trying to change ladder (financial vulture to government) and he is utterly incompetent for the one he tries to reach.
 
 
+20 # Erdajean 2012-10-24 11:08
Right on. Only a day or so ago a very bright friend (some ways) said she was voting for Romney because "he knows how to make money." When I said "Yes, but look how he's done it," her response was an incredulous look. Like, how could I question what is important above all, in running this country?

The weight of wealth in this campaign takes me back to when I was in sixth grade. Every May we had a May Day festival -- that was back before it was considered "Commie."

To raise money for the school party, we had a May Queen contest. Gallon jugs with slotted tops were put out to take "votes" -- a penny each, for several nominees. Yes, you could nominate yourself.

Well, the homeliest, meanest girl in school was also the richest. She had a squared-off bulldog shape and jaw, mean eyes and a junkyard dog personality. And her daddy owned a rich-car dealership. Every day she showed up with a bank bag full of "votes."

Of course long before the pennies were counted, we all knew who our May Queen was going to be. Thus, the coronation of Murda Mae Muggle was a lifelong lesson in Why Money and Politics Must Not Mix.

In retrospect, I see that Murda Mae had exactly the same qualification for Queen of the May that Mitt Romney has for the presidency of the United States: She could buy the election.
 
 
+8 # WolfTotem 2012-10-24 13:15
Quoting MainStreetMentor:
The "Peter Principle", (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle), comes to mind for both Romney and Ryan.


I've observed the "improved Peter Principle" at work over the past forty years, both in politics and every area of bureaucracy. Most attain their "level of incompetence", a smaller number reach a "Level of Higher Incompetence". (Most Congressmen fall into this category.) And lording over us all, we have... "The Supreme Incompetence".

With R&R, it's the Supreme Incompoop and Its Sidekick.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-24 17:21
Success in business world hmmm firing Americans and shipping our jobs overseas.
Taking USA Olympic Contract to China...
Stealing our Economy and handing it to offshore accounts. I do not see that as smart, sneak, sleaze does not make one smart.
I do not see any Power Driven Business man as smart or a success. They got their money off of others work, sweat and perhaps death. I wonder what God will think of it all, do not believe they are the Meek that will Inherit the World. Smart not at all...Stupid more the like.
 
 
+62 # fredboy 2012-10-24 07:06
Every auto worker and auto supply worker helped by Obama should be working the phones.
 
 
+53 # LeeBlack 2012-10-24 07:24
When watching the debate I thought of Romney discussing issues with foreign heads of state - and he didn't come across as Presidential. He doesn't reason, he doesn't have the capacity to look at issues from someone else's point of view.

As for LOOKING Presidential - no, he looks like what he is, head of a corporation.
 
 
+7 # charsjcca 2012-10-24 09:33
I am not sure that an entity with few employees, never having to face employee issues, with little hands on experience could be considered a corporate head. He is no Jack Welch.

I credit Romney as pulling the Olympic organization back on track. Those who know the Olympic drill understand that the structure is secure. The local organizing committee report to U S Olympic Committee which is governed by the International Olympic Committee. He did not have to create the Olympics, just adhere to the structure. That is more like "followship" rather than leadership . In that regard, he inherited what George W. Bush inherited. The tasks today are much greater.
 
 
+11 # MHAS 2012-10-24 12:12
The Utah Olympics were a scandal. Take a closer look at Romney's participation before giving him accolades.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-24 17:27
Thanks I thought that there was a fly in that soup.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-24 17:26
+Not getting those contracts to American Manufacturers doesn't give him any credentials of Olympic Champion. I heard he was absent, had been rather curt to people.
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-24 17:24
Not a good one
 
 
+23 # cbb 2012-10-24 07:52
the question looms large; "how can past positions, unequivocal stands, and recent statements be abandoned at the last moment, and have this type of serious response from the media and the public at large?" it's like waking up in the alternate universe of "bizarro superman" where everything is in reverse, and broken...fractu red, yet everyone goes about life as if this is just another day at the office. chris hedges' title "http://www.ama zon.com/Empire- Illusion-Litera cy-Triumph-Spec tacle/dp/156858 4377" is a glimpse of the national malady; a type of disconnect btwn the super-impact of the visual cortex and the rational frontal lobes. this is a prime example; http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/environment/climate-of-doubt/how-does-climate-change-factor-into-decision-2012/
 
 
-42 # egbegb 2012-10-24 08:28
It seems that President Obama considered his fund raiser on the West Coast more important that the lives of 4 Americans.
He bolted for the left coast before he knew what was happening.

Do you or any of your readers really want to have President Obama keep doing what he does for four more years?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57538689/emails-detail-unfolding-benghazi-attack-on-sept-11/?tag=AverageMixRelated
 
 
+29 # cbb 2012-10-24 10:52
>Do you or any of your readers really want to have President Obama keep doing what he does for four more years?

emphatically, Yes. only this time, without abandoning him to the "obstructionist " teaparty.
 
 
+3 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-24 17:29
He bolted for the Coast 'before he knew what was happening" Well, why didn't you send a lynch mob after him?

I believe that the CIA again did not keep our President informed of what was happening nor Hillary Clinton. Wow how does that grab ya?
 
 
+25 # lockerh 2012-10-24 09:00
To accept the assertion that Romney "won" the first debate is to accept the premise that saying nothing at all of substance, supporting nothing that you do say, and smirking for 90 minutes is strong debating.

Obama, by contrast, managed to articulate all of his accomplishments relative to the debate topics of the evening. Substance over style: that is winning a debate (for thinking people).
 
 
+16 # reiverpacific 2012-10-24 09:06
Well, Dimwits Bush didn't look or act Presidential either -he DID manage to piss-off most of the rest of world, leaders and populace alike, except the born again Holy Catholic Blair who did NOT represent the views of his country-people.
Twit managed to top that though, in offending even Israel in his recent trips for Gawd knows what reasons.
One thing Twit and Dimwits shared though -they were and are international ignoramuses.
 
 
+10 # bmiluski 2012-10-24 09:19
Hey all romney had to do (like reagan) was to show people that he was "normal". And that he did. Even though he had to lie to do it.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-24 17:30
He has yet to show me he is normal, he has yet to show the USA his Taxes.
 
 
-22 # Billy Bob 2012-10-24 09:20
As romney made perfectly clear during the debate, he just wants peace and is willing to end the war in Afghanistan as soon as possible. He also has no intention of bombing Iran...
 
 
-13 # Billy Bob 2012-10-24 11:03
I got a negative for that? Someone didn't like that comment? Let's try this one:

You must not have heard me right. All I said was that romney doesn't want a timeline to get the troops out of Afghanistan. It projects weakness. We should never apologize for America. We also need to do whatever is necessary against Iran even if that means another war.

I thought I made that perfectly clear...
 
 
+11 # Billy Bob 2012-10-24 11:45
Wait! Wait! You don't like that one either? Well then, let's try this one:

I never said either of those two things. What I said was we need to have a more humble foreign policy. We can't afford to go around "nation building". Afterall, we have problems of our own here at home.

Do you like that foreign policy statement? If so, then THAT'S what romney said. Otherwise, get back to me and we'll try another one.
 
 
+16 # Billy Bob 2012-10-24 13:38
Of course everything romney says has a shelf-life. Once it's no longer popular he just removes it from the shelf.
 
 
0 # Billy Bob 2012-10-24 16:59
Ah! We finally found a core value of Mitt Romney that everyone can get behind. You like that one!?

EXCELLENT!!!

THAT'S what he's been saying ALL ALONG. Any evidence you have to the contrary is just the liberal media trying to give you kool-aid, or lead the sheeple, or something...

Anyway, as you can see, Mitt Romney is clearly a man of principle and he always has been.
 
 
+3 # Billy Bob 2012-10-24 22:05
Now I got a negative for THAT?!?! I don't understand why. You can't point to a single time I've ever contradicted myself, changed my views or said anything hypocritical!

And if you can, who ya gonna believe?...

ME (picture and eagle eating apple pie while standing in front of an American flag, kissing a baby, and being given a high-five by Jesus)?

Or your own lying eyes? Don't believe anything you read on the internet - ESPECIALLY if it was written by me previously and disagrees with anything you want to hear!
 
 
+5 # cbb 2012-10-24 11:49
> i got a negative for that?

can't worry about your "score" bb; happened to me last wk after posting something i heard rebutting the gop line that obamacare is socialism. although the quote supported this legislation as "market-driven, " the negatives piled on.
not sure everyone reads with total comprehension here. you know, its blow and go. i've read your comments...thou ghtful, responsible, in my humble opinion, for what that's worth.
 
 
+11 # Billy Bob 2012-10-24 13:35
Thanks for the compliment.

Actually, I'm just repeating Mitts own sentiment at various times - depending on who he thinks is listening. I don't understand why he doesn't have 100% of the vote. When it comes to foreign policy, at some point, he's agreed with everyone in the entire country!

He's espoused every single opinion that's even possible. Sometimes, all in the same day!

How can ANYONE have a problem with that? Clearly he's a man of substance. If you don't believe it, just ask one of his servants.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-24 17:34
Or substance abuser...betwee n he and ryan what gives with their eyes...Is the cloning of the Repubs coming apart in the eyes? Heck he went around agreeing with every country...Wonde r if they saw that also
 
 
+1 # Billy Bob 2012-10-24 21:55
"Substance abuser"! I like that!
 
 
+4 # Lolanne 2012-10-24 18:32
I second cbb's comment, BB. I appreciate your comments here and I "got it" from the first one up there since I actually read it, as I have also read your previous comments on various articles. FWIW, I gave you the green button on those 3 comments -- not that it made any difference. Like cbb, I've also gotten some strange red scores on past comments here and there.

Point is, romney is a marionette. Pull one string, he says one thing, pull another, he says the opposite. He will do the bidding of his "handlers" no matter what. After all, they've clearly said they don't want a president -- they just want a puppet who can hold a pen and sign whatever they put in front of him. Heaven help us if they manage to steal this election -- and Ohio is already up to the same games they played in 2004, per today's news (google "Ottawa County Board of Elections" and you'll get an ear/eyeful, if you haven't already.
 
 
+1 # Billy Bob 2012-10-24 21:59
Thank you. I have kids, so "being appreciated" is something I HUGELY appreciate myself.

Actually, I think some of the people who gave me thumbs down probably got the gag as well. Giving thumbs down to the comments they didn't like could have been how they went along with it.
 
 
+5 # Billy Bob 2012-10-24 13:20
RSN, I made a 3rd comment to reply to this one. Please display it. I'm making a point. The point is kind of lost if no one can see it.
 
 
0 # reiverpacific 2012-10-25 19:43
Quoting Billy Bob:
I got a negative for that? Someone didn't like that comment? Let's try this one:

You must not have heard me right. All I said was that romney doesn't want a timeline to get the troops out of Afghanistan. It projects weakness. We should never apologize for America. We also need to do whatever is necessary against Iran even if that means another war.

I thought I made that perfectly clear...

I think you might want to look at your "We should never apologize for America" bit.
That in itself could open up a huge reservoir of suppressed debate. If you made that statement in irony, back reference or quotation marks are handy, or a rider clarifying it as such.
It's OK; I fuck up all the time with my dyslexic typing skills, which could use their own digital nanny. Y'r general intentions are good.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-24 17:31
Good one esp since four months before he told Israel we are gonna whoop it up and bomb Iran...
 
 
+2 # Billy Bob 2012-10-24 22:15
As I said, any comment by Twit Romney has a shelf life. If you believe it long enough to remember it the next day, chances are good it's already expired.

As for romney's character who appeared in the final debate claiming he WOULDN'T bomb the hell out of Iran, I'd check the freshness date on that. Afterall, it's already been a few days.

I'm guessing that when he's campaigning in New Hampshire he's a peacenik and when he campaigns in Southern Virginia he's a G.I. Joe action figure - complete with anatomically INcorrect "extremities".

It ain't easy being "all things to all people" - ESPECIALLY when "people" really aren't your thing. Most of them smell like commoners. When they're not manicuring his dressage horses people tend to distract him from his REAL campaign duties of meeting with donors behind closed doors.
 
 
+13 # Corvette-Bob 2012-10-24 09:30
I agree that Mitt Romney is not a serious candidate for President. He is what Jon Huntsman called a perfectly lubricated windvain. He just responds to the conditions of the moment. Maybe he is the ideal presidennt for the United States. No foresight, no historical background, no core values, just react to the current circumstance with no reflections or concerns for the future. Just react and try to maxamize your gains from the current conditions and have no regard for collateral repercussions of your actions. Just like your business decisions at Bane Capital.
 
 
-12 # Human Right 2012-10-24 10:06
With respect for Frank Rich all presidents are failures as long as Bibi Netanyahu has more power than the president and congress. Also I realize there is not much we can do about it. Hitler tried and Germany was obliterated; we don't want that to happen here so let's all bend over for the Ashkenazim mafia and enjoy it. It's better than the alternative
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-24 17:37
I don't do bend overs. I was taught to stand up for what is right.

If Netnyahoooo is sooo powerful why doesn't he take out his neighbors all by himself? I think they have money, but power over situations Nope.

I believe if we allow them to sit in their sand box, they will be sitting alone.
 
 
+1 # Billy Bob 2012-10-24 22:18
You're right. It would also be nice if we'd quit sending his country money and weapons. It would have been nice if we'd done that decades ago.
 
 
0 # reiverpacific 2012-10-25 19:53
Quoting Human Right:
With respect for Frank Rich all presidents are failures as long as Bibi Netanyahu has more power than the president and congress. Also I realize there is not much we can do about it. Hitler tried and Germany was obliterated; we don't want that to happen here so let's all bend over for the Ashkenazim mafia and enjoy it. It's better than the alternative

My goodness -a latter day double-negative!
I'd love to go more into "Hitler tried [As in the "Ultimate Solution"] and Germany was obliterated". Had a look at Europe lately?
I detest Nutty-Yahoo as a warmongering, barely-restrain ed fanatic but Obama has had the grace to fob him off with tact and other pressing priority whilst N-H-Y-oo bends Twit's ever-eager but ignorant, bullying unworldly ear to war with Iran.
Keen on that and it's ramifications are you? Wake up and smell the shit!
 
 
+17 # Old Man 2012-10-24 10:24
Boy!.....If the undecided voter hasn't made-up his or her mind by now who they are voting for, give me brake. I'm sick of these nit-wits, there lost anyway.
These are the people that can't decide on a strawberry or vanilla ice cream cone.
The choice is clear, Romney has been lying his entire life, he just can't help it he was born that way. His sons are defective also.
 
 
+4 # Billy Bob 2012-10-24 11:10
Hey! Cut them a little slack. The undecided voters probably think the election isn't until next year sometime. Many of them probably don't even know where they are or what their name is at this very moment.

Luckily most of them probably don't know how to reproduce either, so at least their children won't be hurt by their parent's inability to pay attention to the world around them longer than a squirrel.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-24 17:37
I didn't know clones could have children. So many new things with technology.
 
 
+20 # MindDoc 2012-10-24 10:37
Well stated, spot on - and Rich is no bleeding-heart knee-jerk 'liberal'. (Nice that he also notes the 'vision' challenge for Obama, and the history of debate 'zingers' usually working.)

At a time we have Akin "representing" people (including women!) by describing 'legitimate rape', joined today by Mourdock declaring rape as simply 'Something God Intended' - and as Ryan-Romney-Koc h-Rove prepare to 'legitimately rape" America, these are indeed shocking revelations about this strain of retrogressives in OUR government.

By the 'judgment' of this GOP/Tea/Crazy-t alk contingent who would take charge of OUR country, we can expect to return to days of polio and malaria (as vaccines interfere with "G-d's will), the undoing of seat-belt requirements (because traffic fatalities are G-d's will), and for G-d's sake, this Group of Pathetics (GOP) believe women *belong* barefoot and pregnant, subservient to (rich white)men and not a part of all G-d's children. And women are moving towards the GOP? Where? Why? How?

Clearly not fit to lead human-type people!

Scary, scary, sick, medieval, and... how do these people get elected? (That may be an even scarier question!)

As for Mitt the Flip's inability to form a position or belief for longer than an occasion of the moment, and his indifference towards (or embracing of) outright lies, wishes, and fabrications... This article's title says it most concisely.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-24 17:40
The Senator that Romeny is still backing after he said on National TV in a debate that Rape is God's Will shows the type of people in GOP. Too bad none of these Cretins are the ones getting raped or their family members, then the story would be different.
I wish it not on anyone, I was raped as a child. I guess at ten years old I asked for it.
 
 
+17 # Floridatexan 2012-10-24 10:56
People don't seem to be aware of what was included in Romney's "accomplishment s". He was directly responsible for an FDIC bailout of Bain & Co. (not Bain Capital, but its' parent), and he received $1.3 billion from the Bush administration to cover the 2002 Olympics, which was heavily criticized at the time by John McCain. He's a master manipulator and ruthless pirate when it comes to his own personal gain. Oh, and there's the 173% profit registered by Bain as reported in the LA Times, which can't have come from legitimate business activities, which leaves only criminal ones, like laundering drug money for Poppy Bush and supporting bloody coups in other countries. How anyone could give the slightest consideration to this man for the highest office in the land is completely beyond me. He's a fraud, from the get-go.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-24 17:43
Excellent Drugs and Bush finally someone else knows Papa B. not to mention ties yet with CIA. Olympics were a disgrace and the contracts that went with them.
We spoke of the Uniforms...noth ing was made in America. Romnit and Bain is like Bush/Cheney and Halliburton

Need a real expose on Bain, Adelson?, Koch's
 
 
+8 # papabob 2012-10-24 15:39
Corvette-Bob

Thank you for saying he's "a perfectly lubricated windvane'.
It describes Romney to a T.
 
 
+6 # JCM 2012-10-24 16:46
It doesn't matter what Romney says day to day. He lies with the greatest of ease. What does matter is what his advisors tell him and they are mostly Bush administration hold overs. You will get: Trickle Down economics, deregulation, extreme conservative supreme court justices, reversal of Roe vs. Wade, no abortion under any situation, acts to reduce Medicare, Medicade, and Social Security, cuts to education, infrastructure, green energy projects (they don’t believe in Climate Change), tax cuts for the wealthiest and probably all out war. They are the party of greed and hate. This will be Bush times ten. I hate to say this but I believe this to be true in a very realistic way: be afraid, be very afraid.
If I have missed anything please reply.
 
 
0 # Jean Louise 2012-10-26 06:27
"Point is, romney is a marionette. Pull one string, he says one thing, pull another, he says the opposite. He will do the bidding of his "handlers" no matter what. After all, they've clearly said they don't want a president -- they just want a puppet who can hold a pen and sign whatever they put in front of him."
Sadly, we already had eight years of that, and enough is enough.
 
 
0 # GreenBee 2012-10-27 13:55
To Billy BOB

Yes, Romney and you apparently think we should not have a timeline for leaving any war since it "displays weakness" despite the fact that it appears now as long as we hang around we act as 'enablers" allowing these new governments to put off the necessary task of taking responsibility for themselves. Now, why is it that you (the Right wing) will not extend this courtesy to Americans on unemployment or other programs - using the argument that we "enable" them , and therefore they won't learn to step up and take responsibility unless we put an end date of their welfare, their unemployment etc. So we can assist and enable foriegners forever but never our own citizens!

This is the second coming of GWB who wanted to give all the Iraquis health insurance with my taxes while denying same to me!!!
 

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