Rich writes: "It may turn out that many, including me, were more worried about the post-Citizens United wave of money from the Kochs and Adelsons than we had to be."
Bob Perry, Foster Friess and David Koch. (photo: Unknown)
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OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
The alternative is unbearable
Not a big deal in the Presidential race because Robme is a lamo. But they CAN and WILL buy Congress. Just watch.
You say that, but the article explains that they're having trouble in Michigan and Pennsylvania. The MSM isn't explaining why that is. It should be national news, and the subject of a 60 minutes expose.
In Michigan, the public is being traumatized by the Governor appointing Czars to run financially distressed Counties and Cities. The Czars are just eliminating elected officials and regulatory bodies and by caveat, installing guys who are closing and privatizing the traditional and essential services.
In Pennsylvania, the fracking industry is running roughshod over the landscape and the citizens are finding themselves double crossed, impotent, and irate. Corporate livestock farms are another severe bone of contention there, and downwind and downstream residents are irate that their longstanding democratic remedies won't work anymore.
So voters in those states are getting a preview of what Romney and his sidekick have in store for the rest of us. NO AD will get them to vote for the duo that wants to install a destructive bunch such as the Rethuglicans represent. People who have for four years been demonizing Barack Obama have decided he's "good enough", but the MSM remains mum.
The country is not for sale, but apparently the principles are!
As a progressive liberal, how can you vote for a man who has a kill list on
his desk and has signed indefinite detention?
Where is Montesquieu (google) and his
separation of legislative, judging and
executive power?
Vote Green/alternati ve/third party and be proud of looking your grandchildren in the eyes.
The Chinese company is doing business with IRAN, IN SPITE OF THE EMBARGO????
Now WHO do you think was investing in THAT company???? RIGHT MR. ANGRY WITH CHINA HIMSELF. He invested twice. But pulled out his money when he started to run for the presidency. He is ALL class. As usual he lies. WE PLAIN AND SIMPLY CAN NOT TRUST MIT ROMNEY.
Let those rich SOBs loose all that money on ads people really hate. It's payback time.
I, too, have been consoled by the enormous sums being poured into Romney adversiting... until I remembered who owns the media. And realized that this was a sort of perpetual cycle, with those dollars going right back into the pockets they came out of.
What I REALLY hate is how effective lies are, how readily the general public seems to swallow the hook without examination, and how the media, for the most part, turn a blind eye. Then I remember who owns the media, and ... well, see above.
I spoke to people today from nursing, assisted care. They are tired of debates and believe both candidates could have used the money more wisely in times like this. I agreed.
I, for one, welcome our new Mormon overlords.
At the same time, lazy Dem voters (like 2010) don't bother to vote. Certainly, the next four years will be extraordinary, and not in a good way.
The Middle East will prove to be a battle arena like no other since WWII, even without Iran on page one, because the Muslims aim to settle old scores among themselves! Jordan and the house of Saud, two long held monarchies are soon to fall prey to Islamic fundamentalism. This is IN PROGRESS, as Inspector 71 would say as he finishes his hot dog...
The next administration must deal with a motor fuel crisis owing to oilfield sabotage. Militants will finally hit Saudi fields to cut off royal bribe money, and so ends the rule of the House of Saud. NATO treaties demand US share oil supply, meaning homeland gas/diesel rationing and say goodbye to happy motoring. Decades of RR mergers/consoli dations and ripping up branch lines will haunt distribution in many US smaller communities & some metropolitan areas. This is completely off the screen!
This election will be the last "Normal" election, as messed up as it seems now. Water for agriculture must be enhanced, so it is suggested the "smart money" take a look at NAWAPA, along with cherry-picking the most critical (agricultural, essential manufacturing traffic) rail branch lines for rehab.
You mention several issues the majority of our country men are not paying attention to at all. Mitt and they STILL think that we can "tell" countries in the Middle East and elsewhere what to do!!
As I have said before, those days are LONG GONE. I agree with you that sabotage to the Saudi OIL Fields is very likely.
That is just ONE MORE reason we should step up our work on renewable- and clean energy.
We may need it much sooner than we think.
It is time to WAKE UP to reality. We are NOT THE SUPERPOWER. anymore, for many countries are asserting themselves, and they DO NOT WANT ANYBODY TO TELL THEM ANYTHING.
Bush's misadventure in Iraq CLEARLY showed the Middle East, that we are NOT all powerful. There are limits to our military might. And they want NONE of it.
We have propped up too many dictators for them to respect us. Now we need to stand back and let them work out their own problems.
Like a friend we need to stand back and only give advise when asked.
Don't look now, but we're creeping up on something that's bigger than us. Could the US be forced to fight for MidEast oil again? could we, maybe, just get cut off or have to buy in a currency other than Dollars?
BTW, the US has committed to provide weapons to The Sauds and provide protection in return for the continued supply of oil. Do we want that fight?
Oh, my. the thot plickens as one looks down the road a bit further.
We are in for a rocky future, and we sure need a cool head in the White House, for there will be plenty of chicken hawks in Congress, who will push for war.
Since our interests run counter to China's in many respects, getting into a war, as I see it, is not possible, for they can pull the plug, call in their markers. We owe them more money than god has.
And if you think we have problems now???
You ain't seen nottin yet??
I can't see how we could avoid going broke. if we get into another war.
And of course that includes being tricked into picking up the pieces, if Netanyaho is stupid and pig headed enough to bomb Iran's nuclear sites.
They will simply not be able to get them all for there are MANY more than most people realize. So the Israelis would only do a halfassed job which would create a king size MESS and maybe start the 3rd world war.
With allies like Netanyahu, we don't need enemies. This is not antisemetic. it is anti Netanyahu. He is a dangerous war monger.
Darlin, most of the oil taken out of American soil is being shipped abroad. So we're already there.
Nato is not demanding that we share the oil supply. It is trade deals between many countries.
Diebold pulled a lot of "fast ones" in 04. And they absolutely cost Kerry the election. I still do not understand that Kerry did bot sue.
1- No Iraq
2- No Afghanistan
3- A lot further in alternative fuel developement
4- No Katrina debacle.
5- No deficit
ETC
This is EXACTLY what those f-kers want you to believe: That money doesn't count in elections.
BUT IT DOES. OVERWHELMINGLY.
It isn't going to matter much in the PRESIDENTIAL election because Robme is a disaster of Goldwater dimensions. But WATCH THE CONGRESSIONAL RACES where a $100K here and there can make a dramatic impact on the outcome. The Reich-wing can spout out so many lies that a Demo will not be able to keep up without lots of cash of his/her own.
If Obama stays in office and the GOP takes Congress, we'll have another 4 years of criminal conduct. Frankly, if SCOTUS didn't have at least one opening coming up, I'd vote 3rd party. Obama is statist capitalism in black face. But at least with a Demo Congress there might be SOME hope.
In almost all other "civilized" nations, the amount of money and time spent on media is limited and monitored by statute so that all valid parties have pretty much equal time.
But here the most gilded and lubricated voices are the only ones heard, above reason, commonsense and motive in a flurry of smoke and mirrors.
No wonder you are all pissed off (Look at the recent congressional credibility ratings).
I'd love to see a poll on how people feel about the current supreme court who made this all possible.
Funny thing about that World ...in the end they will all cut each others throat. I believe the waters are getting testy right now.
I hope Adelson and Kochs all get their write offs and then get written off.
Buy American....
I don't think it is as much anti Israeli sentiment, as it is anti Netanyaho sentiment.
He is such a war monger, that the military helped to remove him from office around 2000.
He INSISTS that he is protecting Israel, but if he finesses an attack on Iran, he will DESTROY his country, probably OURS TOO, and start an all out Middle East war, that may grow beyond anyone's ability to stop.
Obama DOES understand that, I wonder if Romney does, or if he cares, for the republicans wants war to keep the money rolling in to their supporters, the weapons manufactures.
My thoughts also are --- Don't Count your chickens before they hatch or even assume they will hatch.
Six Weeks is a LONG road in politics and public opinion.
Yes, it would be good to see Mittens and his more blatantly elitist party slapped down in Nov.
But then, any Obama II presidency damn well better get serious about leading campaign finance reform, or I and a lot of other progressives will never vote Democrat again.
Seriously, I do have a theory I don't see getting any voice, and that is that the lies, blatant & constant, along with the mud-slinging, deflecting of facts and positions, fear-mongering, voter fraud worries, etc. --- I think maybe it's the all-you-can-eat money and mudpie fest which has passed a tipping point and is now simply tuned out, and the uncommitted voter relies on crystallized positions, facts, or a steady diet of automatically filtered 'news' and tweets, etc., but is simply sick of the air wars on TV and the annoying calls at home. So I think (hope) there's something positive in all the money the 1% Party Owners are spending on brainwashing and spin and misinformation:
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What if, aside from the worst possible person on earth shooting himself in the foot continuously, the "main effect" of all the endless smearing and whining and polling & trolling is, it HURTS the R&R party, and brings out Obama votes. Hopeful.
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