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Excerpt: "If all the ballots had been reviewed under any of seven single standards, and combined with the results of an examination of overvotes, Mr. Gore would have won, by a very narrow margin."

The Supreme Court did hand the presidential election to George W. Bush. (photo: Rolling Stone Magazine)
The Supreme Court did hand the presidential election to George W. Bush. (photo: Rolling Stone Magazine)

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+38 # Lisa Moskow 2012-06-28 09:16
Thank you for reminding us of this.

Maybe the Supreme Court is the greatest
force for evil we now deal with.

There are other forces of evil for sure, but in the "old days" the Supreme Court really stabilized our government.
 
 
+64 # Barbara K 2012-06-28 09:16
Of course Bush stole the election, it was easy, his brother, Jeb, was the governor in Florida, and purged many names from the voting registers. Then had the once Supreme Court call it for Bush. Gore actually won the election, and we always knew it. Can you imagine how much better off we would be if Bush had never been to the White House? We would all be prospering, owning homes, having jobs, etc., etc.
 
 
-16 # lexy677 2012-06-28 11:04
Although I was upset about the fact that Bush stole that election, in retrospect I am kind of glad he did. The prospect of Lieberman, a zionist "Israel firster" as vice president is scary. Gore should be fervently thanking God he is still in the land of the living; he would eventually have died a misterious death, making Lieberman the first Israeli President of the United States. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan would be "paper tigers" compared to what would be coming in Iran, Syria, Lebanon etc., young Americans would be dying in greater numbers by now; fighting Israel's enemies.
 
 
+3 # AndreM5 2012-06-29 08:37
I wasn't fond of the idea of Lieberman in the VP office either but we certainly have radically different reasons.
 
 
+39 # LeeBlack 2012-06-28 09:25
When the Supremes essentially selected Bush in 2000 Democrats accepted the decision. Now, if only the Conservatives will accept the Affordable Care decision and move on instead of of rehashing the original debate.
 
 
+21 # ceesa 2012-06-28 09:42
The past 2.5 year have proven this is just not possible. Sadly.
 
 
+19 # Barbara K 2012-06-28 13:50
LeeBlack: The Republicans would rather spend time on anything other than taking care of the American people who they are supposed to be serving. They don't do any genuine legislating, except the tripe they've sent to the Senate to stop.
 
 
+61 # tm7devils 2012-06-28 10:02
...and now for the rest of the story...
K. Harris & J. Bush cooked up a caging list of felons names (felons in Florida are not allowed to vote)in Broward County, which is predominately black. Every person who had the same last name as a felon - whether or not the first name or the initial matched - was on that list. Approximately 57,000 legally registered voters were kept from voting in the 2000 election. Oh!...did I forget to mention, MOST of those on the caging list were Democrats!
This information came out, but only on the Internet(thanks to Greg Palast, who wrote a book detailing all the facts), BEFORE the SC made its decision to stop the vote count. I believe this info hurried their decision - before it got to the main stream media(they didn't have to worry, it was only reported in Great Britain).
I believe this decision made traitors of 5 members of the court since ,in essence, they picked a winner in a presidential election...whic h, per our constitution, they are not allowed to do!
SO MUCH FOR SEPARATION OF POWERS!
(Must reads by G. Palast: The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, and Armed Madhouse)
 
 
+23 # AMLLLLL 2012-06-28 11:42
Voter suppression is alive and well and Florida is once again at the center of the storm. The election officials there and all around the country are not cooperating with this blatant attempt to skew the vote. They owe no allegiance to any party nor to the governor of their respective state.

Voter ID does exist, but they want 'special' voter ID that usually costs money to document, and affects more poor than anyone else.

Instituting a voter ID card is analagous to going camping and lighting every match in the book to make sure there's no dud in there.
 
 
+16 # Barbara K 2012-06-28 14:00
AMLLLLL: I think if they expect Voter IDs, then it should be up to the state to give out Voter cards with your photo on it, like they do with driver licenses. There should be no charge for something they are demanding. Let them put our photos on the voter cards. Problem solved.
 
 
+7 # pernsey 2012-06-28 20:20
Quoting Barbara K:
AMLLLLL: I think if they expect Voter IDs, then it should be up to the state to give out Voter cards with your photo on it, like they do with driver licenses. There should be no charge for something they are demanding. Let them put our photos on the voter cards. Problem solved.


Hi Barbara, that makes so much sense, but the GOP are trying to stop people from voting democratic, they really dont want a solution, they want to win. Even if its crookedly, they are so transparent. No one believes they are really fighting voter fraud except for possibly the Fox News brainwashed sheeple.

That was a great solution Barbara.
 
 
+3 # Cassandra2012 2012-06-28 13:32
Broward County is NOT predominantly black ---where di you get that idea? lots of retirees mostly white in that county!!
 
 
0 # Firefox11 2012-07-01 14:35
Quoting Cassandra2012:
Broward County is NOT predominantly black ---where di you get that idea? lots of retirees mostly white in that county!!

Quoting Cassandra2012:
Broward County is NOT predominantly black ---where di you get that idea? lots of retirees mostly white in that county!!

Whites are a minority in Broward County according to official statistics
 
 
-14 # Jyl 2012-06-28 10:03
At this point, it really doesn't matter, does it? We have everyone's number but, again, what difference does that make, either, the brave and wonderful electorate that we are?!
 
 
+9 # Cassandra2012 2012-06-28 13:35
Quoting Jyl:
At this point, it really doesn't matter, does it? We have everyone's number but, again, what difference does that make, either, the brave and wonderful electorate that we are?!

Yeah, that was essentially Scalia's position when confronted with his bad decision ...said 'forgetabout it!!' Scalia is one of the worst justices we have had to dne4dure (except for his muindless, and apparently unethical acolyte, Thomas) Maybe Roberts' decision was motivated by a desire to clip Scalia's out-of-control wings???
 
 
+30 # reiverpacific 2012-06-28 10:05
The really scary part is that ANYBODY but his immediate family and wealthy conniving friends, voted for Dimwits Bush, who screwed up everything he ever put his incompetent hands on, never mind the "Narrow" margin either way, compounded by the premature capitulation of Mr. "Inconvenient Truth", the cynical manipulations of the bad witch Catherine Harris and the bent intervention of the screw-up court (post-Roberts/A ilito at that).
 
 
+37 # Richard Raznikov 2012-06-28 10:23
The 2000 election was stolen and so was 2004. Anyone with a little common sense knows that if you allow a secretary of state to 'purge' 57,000 names from voting rolls you will have lost your democracy –– yet we permitted it. In 2004, more than eight million votes were electronically switched in 6 states and, again, despite the evidence, the Democrats let it go. Those two elections ratified national elections as a charade in which both parties agree not to investigate, indict, or jail anyone while free elections go down the tubes.
 
 
+31 # Vardoz 2012-06-28 10:27
This is only the beginning and if Romney gets in it will be the end. The sell out will be complete. All of our lives will be at the mercy of corrupt Supreme Courts justices , corporations, sold out reps and our fate will be in the hands of those who place profits ahead of life and any cost to anything.
 
 
+19 # Douglas Jack 2012-06-28 10:33
US Democracy????? Then again, fewer people throughout the world or in the USA consider US election processes, political democracy or government as legitimate with problems of: 1. unverifiable (no-paper-trail ) manipulated computer voting results, 2. Buying elections at all levels with billions through massive advertising. 3. one-sided corporate ownership of media which only reports one side of electoral contests and issues, 4. Lack of any 'dialectic' ('both-sides') process such as one-on-one debates where voters can hear both sides of arguments and issues in comparative analysis. 5. Lack of Economic Democracy multi-stakehold er investment and participation in US workplaces. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/relational-economy/8-economic-democracy 6. Attacks and subversion by arming insurgents by the US, Canada and NATO countries on any defenceless country they want geo-political control of and resources. 7. Genocide against First Nation Americans, 8. 236 years of foreign invasion and economic exploitation.
 
 
-19 # 4merlib 2012-06-28 11:12
Douglas, you are so right that this country of ours is a blight on the earth. In fact it sucks so bad that we should all pack up right now and get ourselves to a better place. You first!
 
 
+7 # cordleycoit 2012-06-28 10:48
Warren Zevon wrote Mohammod's Radio saying "Everybody's telling us stuff we all ready know." Tim we knew this in 2000 , whenever. Sort of sucks because there was nothing we could do then and very little we can do now with the sham elections of today much less yesterday.Sure I got an old grudge against W and his criminal family. Awhole lot of knew about the machine rigging and outright fraud. This is America land of the sheep. Good Americans never look back at the crap they throw out much less waste of now,
 
 
+25 # fredboy 2012-06-28 10:55
Yes, we knew this 12 years ago.
What most baffled me was Tennessee and Vanderbilt University.
Gore loved both, and his election would have been a huge bonus to both. But, to my amazement, most people I knew at Vanderbilt voted against him--because they were what I call "birth Republicans", ie "my daddy was a Republican, so..." I was put on the crap list by many there, including those I considered good friends who I had helped get jobs, etc.
The past 12 years have left many of us baffled--it is as if the very fabric of our nation was intentionally ripped, and many, many here continue to celebrate the resulting fear and hatred.
 
 
+22 # wwway 2012-06-28 11:20
I was taking constitutional law at the time of the Bush v. Gore decision. Conservative and liberal classmates concurred that the court had no jurispurdence in this case in the first place and we agreed that the court send the case back to Florida to work out. Our reasons were that our government is orderly and Clinton could have remained in office until Floirda did what was necessary to ensure that the people had their votes counted. If the court had done that then it would have sent a strong message that states must get and keep their act together.
The Supreme Court would have served it's purpose best by not deciding who won Florida.
 
 
+8 # asbpab1966 2012-06-28 11:20
If that ass, Nader, had not siphoned votes from Gore in New Hampshire and Florida, Gore would have won easily. Let those who feel Obama is not far enough to the Left take a lesson. A vote for a 3d party candidate who does not have a snowball's chance in Hell of winning is a vote for Romney.
 
 
+5 # tuandon 2012-06-28 11:31
This is news? We knew it back when it happened.
 
 
+23 # bmiluski 2012-06-28 11:36
I wish they would ban electronic/comp uterized voting machines. How easy is it to manipulate them with no back-up paper work.
 
 
+11 # Billbb 2012-06-28 12:03
"In that [post 911] atmosphere, the newspapers grasped for an interpretation that would both reassure most Americans of what they wanted to believe and avoid placing themselves in opposition to a powerful and bipartisan rallying around Bush that was then at its apogee."

I would never use the term "rallying" to describe the gun to the head methods the BuCheneysh thugs used to demonize any attempt at dialog over which path the country should follow to bring justice to the perpetrators of 911 and to prevent any attempt to treat the history of US-MidEast as having started before the morning of the World Trade Center tragedy.
 
 
+8 # panhead49 2012-06-28 12:13
bmiluski - go absentee voting (can only hope that you state hangs on to that paper for a sufficient time).

No one needs to steal our votes - we just had a primary here in CA. I live in a rural county. Only a third of those registered bothered to vote. Because of that dismal turnout 2 of some the most crappy County Supervisors 'er elected were returned to their seats by getting less than two thirds of the measely one third of the entire elible voting pool that bothered to vote. They are stealing candy from a baby. insert frowny faced icon here
 
 
+12 # tabonsell 2012-06-28 14:25
I keep arguing this point, and maybe some day I will get through to someone.

The Supreme Court did not make George Bush the president, it only prevented the rightful winner, Al Gore, from claiming victory. And the Bush v. Gore decision didn't guarantee Bush would prevail.

Congress made Bush the president.

Congress has the duty to count the votes in the Electoral College and declare the winner. The Court decision didn't apply to Congress, therefore it could have refused to accept Florida's vote totals until a complete and honest recount had been conducted and let the Court know who was really in charge.

Because Congress was controlled by Republicans at the time, there was no way that party was going to stand up in defense of decency and fairness on a matter as important as who would be president.

Let's put the blame where it belongs; on the anti-democracy Republican Party.
 
 
+2 # hbheinze 2012-06-29 06:43
Very good points! I hadn't thought of it this way before. Thanks for the information! It's yet another one of those "obvious" things that virtually no one knows or talks about.
 
 
+18 # skiprizzo 2012-06-28 17:21
I just feel bad for the families that lost a loved one in Iraq, for no earthly reason. Had Gore been elected, we would not have wasted all that blood and money in that shithole!
 
 
-2 # The Voice of Reason 2012-06-28 17:29
These political campaigns are nothing but legalized vote rigging. So why complain when one vote rigger is more deceptive than the other? Didn't Mayor Daley cough up some dead votes for JFK, and didn't everyone think it was the greatest? haha

Politics is dirty and greedy. You get what you pay for. We need a new voting system where no one can run or campaign or nominate, and ballots are secret. But that is like telling a cyclops 'you need two eyes', or like telling a poisonous rattlesnake, "I'm so sorry, but I'm going to have to cut off your head now. You are, after all, a poisonous rattlesnake."
 
 
+6 # Dion Giles 2012-06-28 19:15
"You get what you pay for"

Sorry, but you get what THEY pay for.
 
 
-2 # Huck Mucus 2012-06-30 14:32
We deserved it because we let it happen. We deserved it because we are the type of people the conservatives accuse us being. We deserve it because: "We are concerned about a recent drift towards vitriol in the RSN Reader comments section. There is a fine line between moderation and censorship. No one likes a harsh or confrontational forum atmosphere. At the same time everyone wants to be able to express themselves freely. We'll start by encouraging good judgment. If that doesn't work we'll have to ramp up the moderation.

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We deserve it because we think "responsible action" = peaceful action or inaction and trumps every thing. Better to look be peaceful and look peaceful than to stand up on your hind legs and crack some f**king heads. Hey, but guess what? You can always be a martyr and say "I told you so." Thanks Gandhi. Thanks Jesus.
 
 
0 # Huck Mucus 2012-06-30 15:08
The author of the following article hits the nail on the head: http://www.alternet.org/visions/156071?page=entire

The question is, will the wealthy of nobles oblige take action? Or have they been neutered. Or worse yet, won over?
 
 
0 # bingers 2012-06-30 18:29
To disenfranchise anyone the state should have to take that person to court individually and prove that he or she should not have the right to vote. The person accused shouldn't have to prove anything, as there is the standard of innocent until PROVEN guilty.
 
 
0 # Huck Mucus 2012-07-01 17:05
Quoting bingers:
To disenfranchise anyone the state should have to take that person to court individually and prove that he or she should not have the right to vote. The person accused shouldn't have to prove anything, as there is the standard of innocent until PROVEN guilty.


When I hear stories about groups of characters standing around the polling places with the intent of intimidating poor folk or colored folk or whatever, to keep them from voting, well, I can't think of a better opportunity for a little "push back." And I don't mean suing after the fact.
 
 
+2 # Huck Mucus 2012-07-01 08:31
We CANNOT say it is NOT our fault. We CANNOT blame the other side, and say it was beyond our control; that we were only obeying the law, and honoring our inclination toward peace and obedience. That is NOT what our founding fathers and this nation is all about. Ask Jefferson, for one. Our failure to act then, in 2000 resulted in the deaths of thousands of American men and women, the maiming of tens of thousands of them, the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, and the crashing of our economy. It is MY fault. It is YOUR fault. It is OUR fault. WE have blood on our hands. WE are personally responsible. Unlike conservatives and Republicans, who are so used to hiding from personal responsibility behind a corporate veil, WE have to own it. WE failed to fight. If that didn’t teach us a lesson then nothing will and we deserve it. Oh, and by the way, it did NOT teach us a lesson; see Ohio and 2004 in general. That was our second chance to fight and we did not. Now we shall see what our children are made of. I suspect they are more peaceful and obedient that we are.

Go ahead and give me the thumbs down. I don't give a shit. I own it. That's the difference.
 

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