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Intro: "Hours before President Obama popped up unexpectedly in Afghanistan, Romney and Giuliani popped up at a fire station near Ground Zero to complain that he was politicizing the killing of bin Laden. What was wrong with this picture?"

Obama returns to DC from a surprise trip to Afghanistan, May 02, 2012. (photo: Win McNamee/Getty Images)
Obama returns to DC from a surprise trip to Afghanistan, May 02, 2012. (photo: Win McNamee/Getty Images)

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+45 # LeeBlack 2012-05-03 10:53
So much has happened since the Supremes elected George Bush that the public is forgetting all the disasters of those 8 years. Some of the people voting this year were less than 10 years old - obviously they aren't going to remember. And the SuperPacs will focus on the stalemates of the last 4 years so that it seems that it was Obama who was at fault for obstructing positive action.
 
 
+8 # doneasley 2012-05-03 22:11
Quoting LeeBlack:
So much has happened since the Supremes elected George Bush that the public is forgetting all the disasters of those 8 years.


George Bush was (S)elected by the Supremes, and yes it was a disastrous 8 years. As they splurged on 2 tax cuts, 2 wars, and Part D Medicare, and told us lie after lie every day ("mushroom clouds" anyone?), VP Cheney continued to tell us that "Deficits don't matter". Do you remember what George Bush, the ultimate draft dodger, was doing on 5/1/2003? He was landing in a jet aircraft on the deck of the carrier Abraham Lincoln (flight suit and all), and politicizing the Iraq war by proclaiming under a "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" banner the end of major combat operations in Iraq. Needless to say, he was 8 years too early! When they left office in 2008 (Bush couldn't wait to dump the mess in Obama's lap), we were $5 Trillion deeper in debt and SHEDDING 750,000 JOBS PER MONTH!

OBSCENE! But you're right, the negative advertising from the Right will make it seem that President Obama caused the disaster.
 
 
+56 # Bill Clements 2012-05-03 11:19
I swear, Republicans really must think the American people have I.Q's in the single digits, i.e., Romney and Guiliani at Ground Zero complaining about Obama's politicization of OBL's killing. WTF?
 
 
+32 # Bill Clements 2012-05-03 11:22
Thank you, Frank, for putting some perspective on Huffington's totally mystifying statements. Has she contracted Mitt Romney's disease: flip-flopping? Suddenly she's rejoined the Republican Party.
 
 
+33 # Bill Clements 2012-05-03 11:25
"Forward" is not about gloating, it's about going on the offensive against an imminent tsunami of loathsome Republican attacks against any and everything Obama.
 
 
+35 # Alice 2012-05-03 12:11
Funny thing is, on that "Forward" thing, that Obama was giving a speech in Wisconsin and the Wisconsin flag was behind him. Their State motto is "Forward." But the right wing just went nuts about that word, not realizing it was the State Motto of Wisconsin...
 
 
+19 # Bill Clements 2012-05-03 13:00
OMG! That's hilarious. Clearly Scott Walker (and other Koch-owned governors and politicians) have a slightly different version of "foreword." In their case, it's newspeak (1984) for "backwards."
 
 
+8 # Bodiotoo 2012-05-04 10:15
I jusdt returned a "printed envelope" with the obligatury "please add a stamp to save and cut on cost" form Walkers fight against recall. Returned it with my opinion of him asking California's to give money for an election in another state. If you get those send them back empty or with a well thought comment...not that anyone will really read them..., make them waste thier cash on postal fees for empty envelopes.
 
 
+24 # lcarrier 2012-05-03 11:48
I think that Arianna has reverted to her old ways and the days in which she supported her multi-million-d ollar Republican husband for the Senate. Wake up and smell the coffee, Arianna! HuffPost has taken a turn to the right, and Arianna is threatening to return to the darknes from which I thought that she had emerged.
 
 
+9 # Glen 2012-05-03 12:11
Huffington was always suspect. A woman with an ulterior motive and a lot of money. She has friends in places that are also suspect. An individual must show some fairly tight credentials before they are to be believed. She is easy to research.
 
 
-59 # Robt Eagle 2012-05-03 12:44
A truthfull perspective from Huffington is hard to handle, eh? Obama is simply doing a "victory lap" as evidenced by his secret trip to Afghanistan. He gave his televised speech in front of an empty media room because the troops had no desire to be there. In fact the troops were ordered to attend when he addressed them for the cameras, and most were administrative personnel. If you scoured the crowd, no Special Operations Forces (SOF) we there because they all sport full beards and there wasn't a one in the audience to hear Obama's rhetoric. It was amazing also how many times he invoked the word "I" in that speech. Re-electing Obama to the White House will spell doom for the US. Just wait...if he is re-elected one of the first things he will demand is that he is refered to as Emperor Obama.
 
 
+25 # Glen 2012-05-03 13:36
Robt, I don't support Obama or anybody in the government, but I do insist on facts, rather than nonsense and I do not care what the situation was in Afghanistan with Obama. You do appear, though, to accept a lot of nonsense to put your team on top - in your mind, anyway.

I could quote statements made by a number of presidents that could be used to prove them either incompetent, or in love with a possible dictatorship, George W. included.
 
 
+8 # rockieball 2012-05-04 09:31
And G.W. Bush showing up unexpectedly in Iraq at Thanksgiving (carrying a fake turkey)was not a "Victory Lap." Also the troops when G.W. Bush spoke were hand picked supporters of him while those who were not were ordered away from the media.
 
 
+4 # Glen 2012-05-04 14:54
Thank you for shaking up Robt Eagle's memory, rockieball.
 
 
+1 # robbeygay 2012-05-03 20:05
She's a Republican sleeper all the time hasn't changed spots that leopard. Throw Obi a bone today and maul him for scoffing the scraps later.

But this time Obi-won the kan-i-be boss PR, as Romney pawed over scraps at ground zero, Obi grabbed the high Ground (Sun Zhi of Wu - Art of War) won the PR as brave American in a war-zone 6 hours to sign a treaty & visit the troups. Had time to depart and 2 hours to spare for Ambassador to return from airport farewell boss, to Embassy safety before the 2 hour later car bomb blew outside the Embassy. Locking Ambassador and staff in a lock-down Obi safely missed. But showing him fearless to do his Nations bidding as Romney pawed ove crumbs of a long past Bush War excuse. Probably same agency for Bush 9/11 and Obi 2/4 Afghan treaty? Good PR agency for sure.
 
 
+8 # Michael_K 2012-05-03 12:35
Quite frankly, I see no positive outcome from this "who is the more despicable exploiter of the bin Laden summary execution"... If you're going to tote "despicable" scores for both sides, you're going to need a humongous abacus!
 
 
-61 # Robt Eagle 2012-05-03 12:38
US Navy SEALs got Bin Laden, and Obama positioned himself to take the glory if the mission was a succes, and hang the Admiral who had control over the mission if it went badly. If Obama is re-elected into the White House, we will all have to call him Emperor Obama as he trashes the constitution and uses Executive Order to usurp the Supreme Court. Emperor Obama will do countless end arounds of Congress to do his bidding and, well, the results will be disasterous as America will no longer be America.
 
 
+35 # Glen 2012-05-03 13:41
Robt Eagle:

#1 The Supreme Court was "usurped" a long time ago. Most apparent during the 2000 "election".
#2 If you will remember, George W. referred to the constitution as "a goddam piece of paper", with witnesses.
#3 Congress is also bought and sold out to the same people presidents are.
#4 American hasn't been the American you refer to, for decades.
 
 
+7 # Bodiotoo 2012-05-04 07:51
Obama as Commandeert In Chief ordered the action...and the Seals successfully carried out thier orders. That is thier job. Obama did his job...
but Robt..."there you go again"
 
 
+5 # rockieball 2012-05-04 09:34
And G.W. bush would not have positioned himself to take the glory? The commanders of any action from Washington to Petraias
take both the glory and also the condemnation of every action. The grunt who did the fighting hardly ever gets mentioned and when back home is mostly ignored.
 
 
+14 # suzyskier 2012-05-03 13:43
It seems there are some sour grapes going on here. So sad. I think perhaps if a Republican was in office and got Bin Laden there would be a victory flag running up the pole. let's all just be glad he is gone.
 
 
-7 # infohiway 2012-05-03 13:45
Obama Makes Surprise Visit To Afghanistan on the 10.5th Anniversary Of Bin Laden's Death. R.I.P. DEC 2001

GOOGLE:
"BENAZIR BHUTTO" "DAVID FROST"

PRICELESS! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98

Former Rogue OSS - SEC - ABC - CIA Director: William J. Casey said, "We'll know when our Disinformation Program is complete when everything the American Public believes is false."
 
 
+36 # Feral Dogz 2012-05-03 13:47
[quote name="Robt Eagle"]US Navy SEALs got Bin Laden, and Obama positioned himself to take the glory if the mission was a succes, and hang the Admiral who had control over the mission if it went badly. If Obama is re-elected into the White House, we will all have to call him Emperor Obama as he trashes the constitution and uses Executive Order to usurp the Supreme Court. Emperor Obama will do countless end arounds of Congress to do his bidding and, well, the results will be disasterous as America will no longer be America.[/quote

The American voters put Obama in the position to order the strike against Bin Laden. Obama gave the SEALs full credit for their success. Trying to spin this against him is a Karl Rove propaganda ploy that will no doubt appeal to the TP faithful, but won't bring any independent voters over to the dark side.

Amerika stopped being America when five Supreme Court Justices appointed GWB as president. Granting corporations the same rights (without the same responsibilitie s) as people drove the last nail on the coffin lid of democratic process. Conservatism and corporatism have redefined our democratic republic. What we now have is crony capitalist fascism that is beyond regulation or restraint. There is no hope for us if the GOP gains any ground in Nov.
 
 
+13 # szq5777 2012-05-03 15:16
You are so right Feral Dogz! You hit the nail on the head! Obama did what a President is suposed to do. Obama and his team have every right to take credit for OBL. Right wing idiots like Robert Eagle want us all to worship republicans like they are some kind of gods that can do no wrong under any circumstances. Republicans all seem to have a collective memory loss when it comes to the awful BushII years. They want us to forget that They are at the root of all the problems we face today!
I will proudly vote for Obama and every other Democrat in November.
 
 
+30 # Feral Dogz 2012-05-03 13:48
Robt Eagle, if you truly love the American people, and not just some Fox "news" fantasy that tickles your fancy, you would see that the guy with the phony sun tan is the real danger, not the brown skinned man in the White House.
 
 
+4 # futhark 2012-05-03 16:46
Reluctantly invoking Godwin's Law, it is interesting to me to read this article and the comments recorded below it in the light of my just having finished Victor Klemperer's "I Will Bear Witness" diaries as a Jew in Germany in the 1930's. In the diaries he, as a professional philologist, makes frequent notes of the language used by the National Socialists, in preparation for a work he was planning to write on the language of the Third Reich, coded as LTI, Latin for "Lingua terii imperii". The constant invocation of OBL and "terrorists" as a means for obtaining political support pretty much falls into line with some of Klemperer's ideas about how the language of the politically powerful can be used for self-serving, unethical purposes.
 
 
+14 # pernsey 2012-05-03 19:26
The whole thing is republican BS. George W. Bush declared mission accompished prematurely I might add, so the teabaglican, Fox News sheeple shouldnt be saying anything about what Obama said, he got the job done, Bush didnt. So he has a right to say what he wants, the rest is just republicans criticizing anything and everything the man does...they have to stop watching Fox News and start learning facts. They talk about events, but they have no clue what they are talking about and are totally devoid of any true facts or real events.
 
 
+2 # giraffee2012 2012-05-04 11:05
Has Mitt Romney signed the Norquist pledge? Those who sign join the Norquist CULT!
 
 
0 # mikenovember 2012-05-04 12:14
". . .the GOP would revive it again." "revive again" is redundant.
 
 
0 # colvictoria 2012-05-04 16:11
Fifty years from now when the TRUTH about 911 and Bin Laden comes out into the mainstream we will all feel ashamed for jumping on the Obama bandwagon. This whole idea of a Nobel Peace Prize winner taking International Law into his own hands and assassinating people does not sit well.
It seems that anyone or any nation who stands against the interests of the elite banking cabal and US/European Imperialism is considered an enemy who must be annihilated.
Obama's policies are just a continuation of Bush and the neocons. The only difference is that Obama's charisma, brilliance,inte lligence and GQ looks makes everything he says and does a little more palatable and justifiable.
I hope that people realize that we are all being brainwashed and manipulated for an election.
People are being bombed to pieces. Worst of all the entire genetics of a people in the MID East is being completely corrupted by the use of white phosphorous and experimental uranium as well as depleted uranium bombs. People in Iraq are being told not to have children.
I do not trust Obama and sadly my sixth sense tells me that once he is elected he will order a strike on Iran. That is the whole purpose for AFRICOM. Once Iran is destroyed the US/Israel/Europ e will have total control of Mid East wealth.
Romney? Obama? it does not matter. Whomever assumes the title of "President" does what he is told to do by the 1% who hold all of the wealth and all of the power.
 
 
+3 # X Dane 2012-05-04 19:44
HOGWASH
 
 
-1 # futhark 2012-05-04 19:18
The weapons of terror and mass destruction are in the hands of the American military, which deploys them at its pleasure. The ultimate responsibility for their use rests with the Commander-in-Ch ief, Barack Hussein Obama.

Drones, depleted uranium, and white phosphorus are just the beginning of the list of weapons used by the U.S. military against the indigenous peoples of the Middle East, with far too many collateral casualties among noncombatants. That Mr. Obama seems to actually believe that these weapons are some kind of precision tools for selectively and accurately eliminating enemies of the United States shows that he is woefully ignorant of their real operating capabilities or is in very deep denial about his complicity with their patently inhumane use.
 
 
0 # colvictoria 2012-05-04 21:33
@futhark "the weapons of terror and mass destruction are in the hands of the American military"
Only the U,S, military and its Air Force could have taken down those towers on 911. Only the US has the technology and the know with all to deploy depleted uraniun bombs and use (illegally) white phosphorous in Iraq and Afghanistan. Not to mention the technology to build, deploy and maneuver drones.
FMC Corporation Pocatello ID and Monsanto in Silver Srings ID are two companies which produce this chemical. Human Rights Watch has a report about Israel's use of white phosphorous in Gaza. U.S. sells the chemicals to Israel. Same way the US sold mustard gas and other toxic chemicals to Saddam Hussein which he used against the Kurds.
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2009/03/25/rain-fire-0
For all of you doubters the fact is that when it comes to military superiority and the richest military budget on the planet we can come to only one conclusion 911 was an inside job.
 
 
+5 # X Dane 2012-05-04 19:40
As usual the right wing has a lot of nerve. They were using Osama bin Laden constantly to scare the hell out of us. 9-11 was constantly touted. We didn't have a chance to forget it. They said that if Kerry was elected we would most certainly be attacked again.

They were totally shameless and refused to face that Bush bears a lot of responsibility for the attack. There were so many warnings and as George Tenet was saying: they were all going around with their hair on fire!!!!

AND WHERE WAS W, AND WHAT WAS HE DOING??? THE WHOLE MONTH OF AUGUST HE WAS CLEARING BRUSH ON HIS RANCH.

And when a CIA or FBI guy came to fill him in on the eminent danger. W dismissed him with: OK you have covered your ass, you can go.

The republicans hope that we all have amnesia. To be sure some do. But hopefully, enough REMEMBER
DO NO VOTE REPUBLICAN.
 
 
+1 # digitalmook 2012-05-05 06:22
# Bill Clements

Sadly Huff-post and Ariana are playing the dis-info game. I left them long ago when they became a political TMZ website. Ariana has always supported the hand that feeds her lifestyle and since the sale of the sight she has swung hard right...again
 
 
0 # LAellie33 2012-05-08 06:20
REELECT PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA AND VOTE FOR EVERY DEMOCRAT IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE. FILIBUSTER-PROO F DEMOCRAT MAJORITIES IN BOTH HOUSES! THAT'S THE BEST CHANGE AMERICA COULD HOPE FOR. D STANDS FOR DRIVE FORWARD. R STANDS FOR FRIVE IN REVERSE. SAY NO TO ANYONE WITH AN R.
 

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