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Things the WikiLeaks revealed: "Knowing specifically what happened to a sixteen-year-old girl and to the man who stood up to her alleged rapist - and knowing that her attacker may have been in a position to do what he did because he was backed by our troops and our money - is different."

Posterized photo of Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, 080810. (photo: Phillip Toledano/The New Yorker)
Posterized photo of Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, 080810. (photo: Phillip Toledano/The New Yorker)

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+9 # Guest 2010-08-07 20:27
Why are we saddled with so many apparently stupid, arrogant people acting around the world in our name? They don't know history, they don't know human nature, they don't seem to know Afghanistan, or its people... or much else outside of Washington politics.

And why, after we elected the guy who was going to end it, are we letting them continue this ridiculous war?

Is it possible he's not really in charge after all?
 
 
+17 # Guest 2010-08-08 07:50
I have lived in this country for nearly 5 decades but was born and grew up in the middle east. My impression of most Americans is that they are arrogant, ignorant and damn proud of it. It does not make me happy or proud to assert the above. It makes me very sad.

American schools seem determined or resigned to matriculate students who just are just barely literate. This refusal to invest in the nation's future is mysterious to me. America's capital is its future citizens who must be educated beyond texting and social groups in cyberspace. Yet the political will to do this seems non-existent. Why does this nation's leadership believe that ignorance is good enough? I don't get it. What saddens me even more is other countries copying America's neglect of its young citizens in favor of insuring that the most advantaged citizens in the nation gain ever more wealth.

Why is there no forward leaning leadership anywhere outside of Asia? Wish I knew.
 
 
+12 # Guest 2010-08-08 09:09
There are theories concerning this effort to keep U.S. citizens ignorant and living in a mythical country with a mythology for history, which is definitely taught in schools.

One theory is that ignorant, easily manipulated citizens are easier to control and easier to divide. That is definitely the case. Should they wise up and rebel, the government has the ability, with the cooperation of local and national law enforcement, to put that rebellion down in a heartbeat and blame the rebellion on citizens' confusion and misdirection. Circles and cycles.

Many of us are sad and regretful what this country has come to, but the agenda began so long ago that we now have young people growing up in the propaganda and not having a clue what the reality is.
 
 
+2 # Guest 2010-08-09 00:43
I would agree with your observations but it doesn't seem a mystery as why the leaders have promoted ignorance over enlightenment. The ignorant and poorly educated are easily mislead and manipulated. The more the schools have claimed to have been pushing critical thinking, the more scarce it became especially among the educators and policy makers. So sad.
 
 
0 # Guest 2010-09-02 01:28
They mock educated people by sneering at "liberal elites" who live in "ivory towers." They have an insult for everything. They are all over the TV set. They believe what they themselves are saying and they will tell you that if you hate America so much, don't live here. It doesn't matter that people who care enough to point out problems are actually patriots, and those who propagandize for cynical ends are treasonous. It just doesn't matter.

Everyone needs to throw out their TV set and learn to live without it. It is the single most effective propaganda tool that is destroying so much more than it gives.
 
 
+4 # Guest 2010-08-08 08:08
To bbuc. You are so right within your questioning that "he's" not really in charge. He is dictated by the events that do take place in his country. Can you imagine for one instant what would happen if at once the war ended? All these soldiers to be demobilized who in turn would be seeking a job on the present labor market... Then, all the layoffs in the military industries? This would be a repetition of 1929 krash, period. Can one say, without offending anyone that under the present system "War is prosperity ?"
 
 
+1 # Guest 2010-08-09 00:51
War is not prosperity, war is just another spending program. These soldiers won't be returning to the job market immediately. This is a professional armed force.
The defense industry can turn "swords to plowshares" or in this case, wind turbine blades.
 
 
+2 # Guest 2010-08-08 13:23
bbuc. I think you know the answer already; but we all feel uncomfortable, bad, frustrated, angry, that the people we elect to lead the country, are hamstrung before they even begin.

The industrial military congressional complex Eisenhower warned us against are fully in charge. They are getting rich from the misery and havoc they wreck, and there is no way they are going to let go of power.

And John Lewis' point is also true, we have "painted ourselves into a corner" that is almost impossible to get out of.

We produce far too little of what we REALLY need; but we sure produce an over abundance of weapons, so it seems we are forced into unending war. HOW CAN WE STOP IT.

Maybe China Japan and our other debtors will pull the plug???
Then again maybe not. It suits China perfectly that we are weakening our country all by ourselves. Some day could be, THAT ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS BLOW, AND WE FALL DOWN
 
 
+2 # Guest 2010-08-09 15:23
Weapons sales is what so much of it is about. What sector is more profitable to those who invest and promote this huge part of our GDP? As long as this is true, we are destroying our chances for health, happiness and prosperity in exchange for an illusory belief in superiority and national security. Reforming our national media should be our first priority. Next, redistribute the power to elect Senators and the Electoral College to equalize voting power. Blue voters outnumber reds by a large margin but blue votes are diluted; red votes more concentrated. Hence, a small group of neo-cons can rule all and keep democracy down.
 
 
+2 # Guest 2010-08-08 18:43
bbuc
You are precisely on point; the US ruling class has the US population divided into: the filthy rich who are happy with things as they are, and the rest who are bewildered and besotted with fairy tales of who the big bad boogeymen are, about which nothing can be done, just keep sending your young to be trained how to kill the bad guys, oh, and so sorry that some will return in bodybags and bandages, but we'll keep them out of sight.
 
 
+12 # Guest 2010-08-08 00:21
It is time to bring our young people home !!!!
 
 
+9 # Guest 2010-08-08 02:59
"DO WE KNOW IN AFGHANISTAN WHO IS OUR ENEMY AND WHO IS OUR FRIEND"?????????

That would be a big resounding NO.

Even some that may be "friends" by day could be enemies by night. And we are making more and more enemies.

We don't need to teach Afghans to fight.

They have done that for soon half a century.

And a national army is a dream that can not come true, since village elders and warlords are the ones truly in charge. Also how can you build an army with recruits who are illeteral????? I can't believe Petraous doesn't know that.

We are in a total no-win situation.

I remember during the Vietnam war, general Westmoreland was always "just about to win" We were turning a corner. We only needed another 1000 soldiers. Soon there were no more corners to turn, and the country gave up
 
 
+6 # Guest 2010-08-08 05:33
Honestly, are people naive enough to believe that in war, most soldiers are civilised, mannerly and observe rules?! War is about cruelty, degradation, barbarism, butchery and death. The longer a soldier serves, the more impervious he/she becomes to being *civilised,* and the less likely he/she is to be able to return to a "normal" lifestyle. This is hardly a revelation.
 
 
+8 # Guest 2010-08-08 08:27
Nobody trusts nobody in Afghanistan. How long before nobody trusts nobody in the US? You reap as you sow, don't you? Pete Edler, Stockholm
 
 
+8 # Guest 2010-08-08 09:30
Gee Whiz,
If I went to your house and acted like the American soldiers that have been seen to act out in other people's houses and countries, how would you feel? Like, hello! We Americans are not acting like good friends or gracious guests. Even my 4 year old knows better. I guess a few generations of TV, No Child Left Behind, Video Games and Junk Food has prepared our soldiers to act like idiots just as soon as they are told. At least they follow orders. Too bad they are being led by such assholes.
 
 
+8 # Guest 2010-08-08 09:52
We have before us the curious spectacle of a government bent on prosecuting & imprisoning (& even, by some, executing) the gutsy soldier who leaked the infamous documents, & at the same time trying to pretend that there is nothing new, nothing surprising, nothing worth taking the time to read, in them. Yeah? If they are so insignificant, what's all the fuss about? Why must Manning be faced with 50+ years in prison? It appears that the MIC does not want the American public to think too much about what is really going on in their name.
 
 
+3 # Guest 2010-08-08 11:23
Transparency Sucks - The truth might get out
 
 
+2 # Guest 2010-08-08 20:26
What Wikileaks has exposed is the truth about US government secrecy. The US regime classifies information to conceal its crimes, not for reasons in any way related to national security.
 
 
+2 # Guest 2010-08-09 07:14
What is so sad about Afghanistan and, in passing, Iraq, is that neither was involved in 9/11 yet we acted on both as if they were.

The biggest story is NOT what Wikileaks has published, but what we all know: we are punishing those who were not involved in the crime.

This is akin to being robbed and instead of sending the robber to jail (because for some reason you can't find him) you punish his family, neighbors, and anyone else in the area. However, you make sure to paint the picket fence so that it "looks good" to the press.

We never should have invaded Afghanistan in exactly the same way we never should have invaded Iraq.

Funny, Pakistan has been lucky. Perhaps because they have the Bomb?
 
 
+1 # Guest 2010-08-10 00:22
feloneous cat, you are partially right. The Taliban, (who are mainly Pashtuns) were told by our government to turn over or throw out, the Al Queda. They refused, because it is against their culture. (A host can not throw out a guest)
So we attacked them.

Bush wanted to attack Iraq from the minute he took office, he was just looking for an excuse. 9-11 worked. The regime "cooked up" several scenarios threw them against the wall to see which
would stick, which one would the citizen "buy".
Scare the hell out of them with the prospect of weapons of mass destruction.
Remember? They KNEW where they were!
Oh wait! God told Bush he should get rid of Saddam and create a democracy. He felt it in his gut. Take your pick which reason do you prefer??
 

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