The problem with the term islamofascism is that it is meaningless. It's a lame-assed attempt to equate Arab nationalism with Nazism in the public mind. And everyone knows what happens to debate once the Nazis are mentioned; it ends. If we look at the results of the actions of the opposing sides we would be hard pressed to tell the difference. The US kills noncombatants with explosives delivered by drones and our opponents kill noncombatants with explosives delivered by hand or land vehicle. The difference seems to be whether or not these defensive measures are on behalf of the American Empire or some disgruntled locals who take exception to the imperial aims of US elites. On a cost/benefit analysis so worshiped by US capitalists one would have to conclude that the locals are trying to up the price of imperialism in the hope that it will become to expensive to pursue and as in Vietnam, the US will cry sour grapes and leave. Back on the home front we're left with the choice of which programs for the poor must be cut or eliminated. The only trickle down seems to be the middle class joining the impoverished class. As long as we ignore the role of the imperium in bleeding the center to feed the periphery, we'll never get to the heart of the problem.

We will and should feel it at the pump...but food production will go down too...and the oil states cannot eat oil. This means there is a possibility of negotiation...i f we could ever get a government that didn't work for the oil companies.

I am not willing to argue the maneuvers of the world wars, except perhaps the suffering in the Middle East as a result of the "victors" building borders and creating chaos that was predicted at the time to cause more violence. But I will argue the maneuvers of Israel and Jews historically. Never forget there have been numerous other groups that inhabited the Middle East and those groups, including the Palestinians did not received preferential treatment after WWII. Perhaps you are quoting the Bible in stating the "The Jew stars in 2500 year old prophecy", but that does not cut it when other societies and cultures were decimated in the name of the Jew and their so-called relationship with their god. If in fact you are quoting the Bible, surely you will harken back to the old testament and the numbers of people killed and maimed by the Jews when establishing their one god religion. Imagine how that might sit in the minds of other religions.

You appear to excuse death and suffering in the name of winning. The Jew will win AT ALL COSTS?? Am I right?

Nobody excuses violent actions on the part of any group, including the Jews, but do keep history in mind concerning who really stirs the pot. After all Islam was established AFTER the Jews arrived and Christianity was formed. If anything, Muslims learned their tactics from both those religions. Oh, and never forget it was the Jews who took terrorism to the Middle East, including car bombs.

How many troups did Russia and China have in Iraq? Who's making up facts? If "Exxon Mobil has by far the largest stake" do you have any percentage information? Do you have knowledge of the difference in an all-out win and a brokered peace?
Shanti

"it" is simply putting oneself and one's own interests before one's social group, be that family, city, state, country, species or planet. it was a sin the ancient greeks called "hubris". greed, selfishness, vanity, lack of compassion, etc they are all elements of "it".