Chris Hedges writes: "Human beings seem cursed to repeat these cycles of exploitation and collapse. And the greater the extent of the deterioration the less they are able to comprehend what is happening around them. The Earth is littered with the physical remains of human folly and human hubris. We seem condemned as a species to drive ourselves and our societies toward extinction, although this moment appears be the denouement to the whole sad show of settled, civilized life that began some 5,000 years ago. There is nothing left on the planet to seize. We are now spending down the last remnants of our natural capital, including our forests, fossil fuel, air and water."
The Great Pyramids of Giza. (photo: Travel Broker Tours)
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So much more comforting than to look at the 'big picture'.
obviously a typo - should read "392 parts per million"
THANK YOU!!!
One is nonetheless allowed to predict apocalypse as do Mr. Hedges or some fundamentalist Christians and Muslims. But such counterfactual faith-based claims should be looked at askance by those who know history and have enough sense to know that the same claims have been made for millenia.
Lee Nason
New Bedford, Massachusetts
anon., attributed to a prehistoric hippie-type from the dead sea essene colony
There are ALWAYS plenty of fools like you who utter, "What, me worry?" and insist there's nothing we can't overcome if we just "Stay the course!" After all, WE'RE AMERICANS! We can do anything! We're number one!
And for 5000 years there have always been a lot of people in every collapsing system who clung to the false sense of entitlement and moral certainty of manufactured destiny.
I just hope you live long enough to see the utter collapse. It IS coming. Our course is set, and the engineers of that course are counting on people like you to tell the others that there's no need to be alarmed, let alone armed.
"But such counterfactual faith-based claims should be looked at askance by those who know history and have enough sense to know that the same claims have been made for millenia."
The lack of common sense in people like you who think this way would merely be amusing if it weren't so critical to, and exacerbating of, the problems we face.
No. Civilization began more than 8,500 years ago, but, contrary to Mr. Hedges's musings," not in Mesopotamia, The West, the land of "Caucasians." It began on the northwest coast of India about 3500 years before it began in the West, and the people were dark-skinned and did not speak an "Indo-European" or Semitic language.
Those "foreign" brown-skinned Indian people had advanced agriculture and engineered irrigation and a written language and stone buildings and a city of paved streets and plumbing and jewelry and pottery and metal tools --- when the West was still populated by illiterate hunter-gatherer primitives.
In China, too, agrarian, permanent-village civilization began (and had pottery, hoes, polished axes, and weights for digging sticks) 1500 to 2000 years before it began in Mesopotamia.
How pathetic. Even Western political progressives cannot bear the truth that Asia's brown-skinned and yellow-skinned ushered humanity into civilization.
Descartes, Pascal, Gutenberg, Galileo, Pasteur...... stole the myriad mathematical and scientific inventions and insights of India and China and treated the East as if wastes of little better than savages.
"Civilization began more than 8,500 years ago, but, contrary to Mr. Hedges's musings," not in Mesopotamia, The West, the land of "Caucasians." It began on the northwest coast of India about 3500 years before it began in the West, and the people were dark-skinned and did not speak an "Indo-European" or Semitic language."
Civilization began in India about 7500 years before the oldest Mesopotamian civilization. It began about 13,000 BC, in what is now the Gulf of Cambay, northwest India. See, E.G., http://www.archaeologyonline.net/artifacts/cambay.html
Loup-Bouc
Soon you will see the 'elites' preparing; more gated communities; hoarding of water (already happening); etc.
It may not be the religious "end times" scenario-there will be a few survivors, but I don't think it will be a life worth living.
and they have religous nutters and zealots who refuse or choose not to teach rational thought and what such lines REALLY mean and imply...
now its more like: "you hear our conservative dribble but do not evaluate...you see our hateful acts but choose to be blind ..."
Don't know why Glen but, that remark just cracked me up... Hell people, you've got eyes.... Your supposed to have a some what rationale mind... Any one with sense enough knows were wasting this planet and ourselves at the same time... I feel like a chicken.. They eat us before were born and after..... Sunny side up and fried some times.. And about there being no god.. How the hell do we know there is one.. This is how I look at it. We got here some how and were some where.. To simplify the reason, A three letter word works out well enough for me.. God put us here.. Now.. what the hell for, to just watch us destroy ourselves or maybe, save ourselves? Testing our resolve? His cable bill came in and he's broke according to televangelist and has nothing to watch but us? If so.. Wake up Omnipresent one.. You fell asleep way back when.. Look at what your little creatures are doing... Were creatures...... That go along with the features... On this fragile planet... And it is fragile.. Be nice to it and it may be nice to you.. People, well... Nice is a bigger concept to them than God... Cpl. Pierson 101st Vietnam
"You know when I talk to god I know he understands.. He says stick by me and I'll be your god in hand.. But don't ask me what I think of you,I might not give the answer you want me to.." Fleetwood Mac. 'Then play on.' garyray
"O wad some power the giftie gie us,
To see oursels as ithers see us!"
Robert Burns
Good Luck to us all...say 'Good Night, Gracie'.
Today I would be content to see our species go extinct. Better that than taking the planet down with us, as Chris Hedges has aptly declared the possibility for this evolutionary round.
Earth is not a Kindergarden of Eden.
It takes a mature consciousness to run the planet, not this infantile selfishness that's taken over the Republican party and is trying to take over the world. It’s clear: humans aren't ready to handle real power, not by a long shot. I would rather see the planet take a long spa day, maybe 10,000 years, and heal herself of human destruction than see her suffer one more decade at our hands. If we’re about to repeat the Easter Island lesson, then let that climax come soon, while there's still enough ecosphere to regenerate a paradise and perhaps brew some desirable human DNA changes, like more skin color varieties, mosquito immunity, extra civility and NO, repeat, ZERO neo-con genes on the chain.
There is truth in degrees in all said here....but we must get beyond cynical,jaded,h opeless, naive, nihilistic. God doesn't exist in any anthropomorphic sense, but (as said before) Love is God and God is Love... I have experienced this without seeing Jesus in a tortilla chip etc.We must keep trying for the sake of that...for the sake of building a new paradigm/reality...for the sake of our children...and even the sake of whatever it is that is coming to replace us.
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