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Krugman writes: "Will the euro really be saved? That remains very much in doubt."

Portrait, New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, 06/15/09. (photo: Fred R. Conrad/NYT)
Portrait, New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, 06/15/09. (photo: Fred R. Conrad/NYT)


Crash of the Bumblebee

By Paul Krugman, The New York Times

30 July 12

 

ast week Mario Draghi, the president of the European Central Bank, declared that his institution “is ready to do whatever it takes to preserve the euro” - and markets celebrated. In particular, interest rates on Spanish bonds fell sharply, and stock markets soared everywhere.

But will the euro really be saved? That remains very much in doubt.

First of all, Europe’s single currency is a deeply flawed construction. And Mr. Draghi, to his credit, actually acknowledged that. “The euro is like a bumblebee,” he declared. “This is a mystery of nature because it shouldn’t fly but instead it does. So the euro was a bumblebee that flew very well for several years.” But now it has stopped flying. What can be done? The answer, he suggested, is “to graduate to a real bee.”

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+6 # Activista 2012-07-30 20:50
" Spain had no such safety net?" Paul if you would live one year in ANY EU country you would find out that the health care and dental care is available to 99% - including basic medicine.
In the USA to get basic medicine you need a doctor prescription/vi sit ($200) in EU you get it for $2 over the counter.
Go into US rural area - 30 something with missing teeth - quite common - people pulling their own teeth - NOT in Spain. Spain has a social safety net - US does NOT have any. US is bankrupted be militarism - huge national debt:
Gross Federal Debt Debt Held by Public
FY 2013*$17.5 trillion $10.6 trillion
sum/divide 30 trillion by 300 million (US population)= $100,000 debt by EVERY MAN, WOMEN, and CHILD in USA. $500,000 per family. EU is in OK shape, US is BANKRUPT.
 
 
+5 # Ralph Averill 2012-07-31 00:31
Activista, I think you missed Krugman's point. Spain's social safety net is financed by the Spanish government, not a federal European government, so the Spanish gov't., faced with sharply falling tax revenues due to the crash, had to go deeply into debt. Krugman's "safety net" was for the Spanish gov't., not the Spanish people.
 
 
+3 # Charles3000 2012-07-31 08:40
It is interesting that the US National debt is 16 or 17 trillion but only about 2.6 trillion in legal US dollars are in circulation in the entire world. Could someone explain how that came to be?
 
 
+5 # panhead49 2012-07-31 07:06
Activista - if you are interested my doc only charges me $77 for an office visit - where he writes out my Rx's and orders any testing. When I had insurance a visit got billed at $117. Least now I know how much it cost to do the billing.

And since hubbies Social Security check is still showing up and his medical care is still taken care of by Medicare and his supplimental policy (thank you Prez - the saving from the ACA are showing up) - I'd posit we do have a social safety net. Not the best one we could have - so hopefully that happens in Obama's second term.
 
 
+1 # Activista 2012-07-31 09:50
Doctors in WA state (where I live) are GREEDY - NONE of the dozen here accepts Medicare. Visits under the insurance was less - $190 (insurance price control) than without insurance.
NO DENTAL care for MEDICARE. USA safety net is compared to Europe (or Libya before "liberation") is NON existent.
 
 
+2 # jwb110 2012-07-31 11:18
Quoting panhead49:
Activista - if you are interested my doc only charges me $77 for an office visit - where he writes out my Rx's and orders any testing. When I had insurance a visit got billed at $117. Least now I know how much it cost to do the billing.

And since hubbies Social Security check is still showing up and his medical care is still taken care of by Medicare and his supplimental policy (thank you Prez - the saving from the ACA are showing up) - I'd posit we do have a social safety net. Not the best one we could have - so hopefully that happens in Obama's second term.

All of that is true but it doesn't put enough $$$ in the economy to make it rebound. Should the Congress overturn the Health Care Bill suddenly 30 million people will be added to the existing 30 million uninsured and it would only take Flu Epidemic to bring the medical system to it's knees when everyone goes to the ER for care.
Fix the economy, endure enough inflation t to employ the country and the tax dollars will roll in. This is an investment where the Gov't gets whole bunch of it's money back almost immediately.
Also call into question the Patriotic Duty of the uber-rich who hide money offshore to avoid taxes and get tax breaks that slow the economy down. The benefit from the US and starve it otherwise. Their performance is Un-American.
 
 
+5 # reiverpacific 2012-07-31 07:45
"But the creation of a United States of Europe won’t happen soon, if ever, while the crisis of the euro is now. So what can be done to save the currency?" [Quote from article]
It should be the other way around.
The "Fragmented States" is wantonly and deliberately less socially unified than the different nation states of Europe with their unique and dearly-held customs, languages and mores.
The fact of a "Master Currency" as an economic safety net is less important than the universally acknowledge understanding of what comprises basic human rights and a basically decent standard of living. The over-arching language comprising economic gobbldeygook, deliberately written in terms that are confusing to everybody but economic theorists, seems to me to be main obstacle to a solution created by the same set of requirements imposed on a bewildered and stricken populace.
As I stated in another post, can any American, having been unemployed for any amount of time but especially long term, imagine being able to go to a doctor, dentist or other health care provider "(COBRA" is a joke if your income is thus restricted) without being scared shitless about how to pay for it?
I think that the European model should be what is aspired to here but ain't holding my breath!
Make the economists work for the people and not mould things to the desires of whatever theorem they are mucking about with at any given time.
 

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