"Speaking at the 25th anniversary celebration of the national media watch group Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, world-renowned political dissident and linguist Noam Chomsky analyzes the US response to the popular uprisings sweeping the Middle East and North Africa. 'Across the [Middle East], an overwhelming majority of the population regards the United States as the main threat to their interests,' Chomsky says. 'The reason is very simple ... Plainly, the US and its allies are not going to want governments which are responsive to the will of the people. If that happens, not only will the US not control the region, but it will be thrown out.'"
Portrait, Noam Chomsky, 06/15/09. (photo: Sam Lahoz)
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Remember the part about "instability to achieve stability"? I think he means that we, our government, will destabilize a country or another government to maintain the stability of our own system or populace.
Imagine the USA if we couldn't buy petrol for our cars for a week or so. Or if we were limited to one gallon a day. I think we'd quickly become "unstable".
I leave to you the moral issues to consider, as does Mr. Chomsky, but there are a few. He's just laying bare the S.O.P.s about how the American Empire goes about its *business*.
Indeed, I don't like it, but I have to assert that what we call "freedom" depends heavily on what he refers to as "stability". Not a pretty picture, but Mr. Chomsky didn't make the rules (if there are any), he's just the messenger who's telling us how they seem to be. Nor, OTOH, am I defending the "rules". I also think that there are ways around the onerous effect that the USA is having on the rest of the world, but you see what resistance there is to some of the ideas about alternative energy and mitigation of human effects on climate change, for instance.
Democracy in the Arab World will do to US empire as did democracy in Eastern Europe did to Soviet Union empire.
I don't think the Cold War played as big a part in the "current indebtedness" of the U.S. but it certainly put a strain on the U.S.S.R. while they were busy bankrupting themselves in Afghanistan. Now, if you want to point to the similarities in that endeavor and it's consequences, and our current foreign policy, I'm sure we would be nodding in agreement. And if 9/11 hadn't occurred, Condi's plan to revitalize the Cold War and taunt the Soviets with a restart of "Star Wars" and ICBM build-up, may have had the same affect.
I think what's absent in Noam's "analysis" is the idea that people actually do change. If they didn't, we would have been in perpetual wars with Japan, China, and the Soviet Union today. Instead we have peace and parallel interests, centered around, of all things, Capitalism.
I know we will never force human rights on any other country; It could be argued that we have our own problems in that area. But, as many have already seen, when people get even the tiniest sliver of the pie, they respond favorably.
I just wish the spread of "peace through International commerce" didn't cost Americans so much.
we are fighting USraeli wars on Chinese credit card? This more stupid than Breznev ..
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan
As for understanding Europe - I was born in Europe on 1 May 1945 as for ..
"You seem to know just enough to make up own history as you go along."
The one who is murdering children is NATO. One wonders how these three would react to the news that their children or grandchildren had been targeted by terrorists, blasted to pieces by a bomb. Would they scoff and say "Well they shouldn't have been in a command and control centre"? If civilian residences are military targets for NATO, what then would Downing Street be? Or the White House? Or the Elysée Palace?
U.S. foreign policy has been in some ways empirical, yet in some ways helpful.
Where to start??? The U.S. did not win WWII but DID help by tipping the scale against a complete takeover of Europe by the U.S.S.R.
The U.S. did (through many, many billions spent on defense and defense-related R & D) make the U.S.S.R. overspend. We (not democracy) helped the Afghans drive out the Russians by supplying them with arms.
The U.S. did, by way of the Marshall Plan seed rebuilding in Europe at a very crucial time.
Jumping back in time, the U.S. once saved millions of Russians from starving by shipping them grain.
The U.S. made it possible for Germany and Japan to build back bigger and better than ever after WWII.
The U.S. prevented the massacre of many MUSLIMS in Bosnia.
I don't agree that we "changed." We've done things bad countries do, and we've done things on the good side that no other country can match. Running out of space here. But, in a nutshell, there are two sides worth telling... and just a dissident side alone would War and Peace look like a short story.
The list you presented, of U.S. activities, have many sides to each event, but much of it is not taught in school. That's a great deal to learn for many Americans, as adults, so most do not make the effort. Add to that your comments on commercial influence and propaganda and you have an American public that are reluctant to even read Noam Chomsky.
Activista continues to remind us of U.S. failings, as many of are trying to do. We are headed for a fall and I stated in another thread it could quit likely be world war.
Point well taken.
Much that has been wrong with U.S. policy has been commercially influenced. For that matter, much that has been wrong with a lot of nations has been commercially driven.
Ike Eisenhower warned against the newly acquired affluence of American industry (what he called the "military industrial complex" at the end of WWII.
The ONLY HOPE U.S. citizens have of wresting back from the (formerly American but now global mega corporations) is if the citizens put aside differences over less dangerous things and band together against what is fast turning into a CORPORATOCRACY.
The U.S. citizens have been conned by experts, Ken, who have divided us among ourselves over issues that distract us while our power to influence policy has been stolen away. Hopefully blogs like this one are beginning to find articulation for what the problem is, and how important, and how hard the citizens will have to put aside lesser issues and join to get back any balance of power...
The biggest lie always come from the USA and EUROPE who have much to lose if the status quo they live on by selling weapons and means of death were to change. Why is Nato attacking Libya only!
I do not discern President Obama as being a man lacking in empathy for the innocent children or other non-combatants. The nature of warfare today is far less murderous than the warfare of earlier times when incendiary bombs or nuclear bombs were dropped on entire cities. Military technology has advanced in ways that have drastically reduced what the military calls "collateral damage."
My heart aches for any child or innocent who suffers in a war. But war is hell. And if there is war, and combatants of one side bomb buses, and restaurants, and public squares, and then hide among non-combatants, they play a role in exposing those non-combatants.
There is more to all this than you or I can witness.
All the wrong-doing is not on one side, only.
Many of us have been sent to war and never knew anything but what we saw and heard. We wonder. We doubt. We hope. We wish to know who to believe. We see the harm the enemy does to our side. We shoot back. And if we are lucky, we survive.
I have just put Chomsky's books on my must read list, behind more than two dozen. The list grows, but the books on it also get read.
So much to learn. So little time...
Unarmed protesters ... where is Obama, Clinton, NATO?
Supplying terrorist state with $3 billions of arms per year ....
The illusion that some Arabs are more extremist than right wing Americans is the illusion that right wing Americans wants Americans to have. As long as they can control people with FEAR it is wonderful to have a scapegoat. The same patterns work for those in power in any other "nation" and they are all aspects of unconsciousness .
The American people are responsible for their leaders as much as the leaders are responsible for the American people and imperialism is an aggressive destructive mode that needs to be stopped. But everyone in every nation is equally responsible for the American people and its leaders as much as their own. Every individual is responsible for everything and each must speak out and protect it.
Human nature has not changed in all recorded history,and there is no evidence it changed prior to that. There are some very, very gentle, kind, creative, neighbor-friend ly individuals among us humans and some sociopaths who not only are capable of atrocities and mayhem but DELIGHT in it. The ideal government would be a government of, by and for ideal citizens, which never has been, is not, and never shall be on this earth.
I totally empathize and sympathize with the solution you proffer, but at the same time shake my head to think that you might think it to be of any use or wisdom. It suggests your heart is in the right place.
Here is a joke you will love: An old man who had retired from holding the same job and living in the same house all his life, was called for jury duty.
He appeared and stated that he would not serve, because he objected to trials on grounds of conscience.
The judge said, "And just what do you think would happen, sir, if everyone who was called to jury duty to try an accused murderer refused to serve."
The kindly, gentle old man replied, "Your honor, if everybody was like me, there wouldn't be any murderers to accuse."
Thanks for the joke, I did enjoy it and yet you didn't really address the issues presented and buffered them with the idea that human nature has not changed in all recorded history which is as false a statement as you dare to make it.
Tell me, what hasn't changed in the short span of your life? Do you not dare change? Everything is changing without the approval of those who are unwilling to change because the only truly unchangeable aspect of the human being is that each generation we renew our selves and reinstate human values that had gotten stepped over by the instinctive forces of the previous generation.
It is not with friendly, kind individuals unwilling to take a firm step towards freedom from abuse that we'll step into the consciousness of our humaneness but with courageous strong individuals willing to stand up for what is necessary: No more waste of money and lives in the military; redistribution of everything where it is most needed. Human life above every other interest. Call criminals by their name when life is abused anywhere.
Stop the hierarchization of the human being in academic, social, national and economic strata. Everyone is equally human and has equal rights.
There is no Arab Spring. Only the same old winter of US colonialism.
The ICC has indicted Qaddafi, but it has not indicted the NATO leaders who are bombing, killing, and destroying far more than Qaddafi's forces. At least Qaddafi is fighting a defensive and justified battle. NATO and the US are on the offense and are clearly criminal. But they are not indicted. The ICC is as it was designed to be -- an instrument of US/European imperialism. Imagine a court in Belgium that indicts only leaders of the colonized world! King Leopold would be happy.
Did you hear about this? Literally in a midnight session last week, the House Armed Services Committee tucked a dangerous provision into the huge Defense authorization bill. With it, Congress took one more step towards passing a law for endless worldwide war. The new law would use American military forces against terrorism suspects everywhere and anywhere.
If you didn't hear about this provision, you're not alone.
It was added to the bill by Rep. Buck McKeon (R-Calif.), and it could become the single biggest ceding of unchecked war authority to the executive branch in modern American history.
Outrageously, there have been no hearings on the worldwide war legislation, nor has its necessity been explained by Rep. Buck McKeon or anyone else in Congress.
A House vote could come as early as next week. Tell your representative: Oppose any law for a new worldwide war without end. (Do not forward: This link will open a page with your information already filled in.)
Unlike the legislation that authorized the Afghanistan War and the pursuit of Osama bin Laden, the proposed new and expanded law to go to war does not even require a specific threat of harm to the United States.
Laura Murphy
Director, ACLU Washington Legislative Office
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