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Hedges writes: "Gaza is a window on our coming dystopia. The growing divide between the world's elite and its miserable masses of humanity is maintained through spiraling violence."

Truthdig columnist Chris Hedges. (photo: Truthdig)
Truthdig columnist Chris Hedges. (photo: Truthdig)

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+6 # Activista 2012-11-19 22:44
Hedges abstract interment camp Gaza as model how our political/econo mic system will deal with weak and poor in the future.
"people hemmed in by electronic fences, monitored by surveillance cameras and drones and surrounded by border guards or military units that shoot to kill."
 
 
+4 # RLF 2012-11-20 07:02
In 19th century America it was called a 'company town'. It is ready for a return. There are too many people on this planet and that is driving the craziness...too many chickens in the coup and they start eating each other.
 
 
+2 # brux 2012-11-20 12:36
Totally pandering the pro-Palestinian factions of Liberals and Libertarians with ridiculous logic. It would imply the poor here are criminals and deserve such treatment. The poor here are not firing rockets at the rich, and if they did they'd have a reason.
 
 
-7 # brux 2012-11-19 23:06
I really like Chris Hedges and agree with much of what he writes, but here is pandering, jumping on an opportunity to be hyperbolic and appeal to the worst of liberalism and leftists.

The Gazan situation is NOT a window into the situation of an increasingly disenfranchised group of middle and working class people in America. It is different in so many ways that this article really makes me embarrased for the Progressive people who now must complete with each other for the most ridiculous posts to pander and demigogue for the eyes, clicks and attention so they can continue to exist in their little "better than working a job" journalist niches.

This is how capitalism corruptions certain things of social value. I don't know the answer of how to solve it, but writing more and more vitriolic articles to compete with the right wing idiots to drive the whole society crazy just doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
 
 
-4 # Dion Giles 2012-11-19 23:19
This is weird. An article full of generalities about oppression by the federal government and many comments on the same lines, but nothing definite about what form this oppression takes, what is being done to oppose it (except that one respondent writes vaguely about freeloaders - does this mean banks or does it mean the poor?), a dysfunctional form of Disqus - is it a spoof, or have I slipped into an alternative universe?
 
 
+1 # Dion Giles 2012-11-20 17:23
This comment has jumped to the wrong article. It was sent to "Ron Paul Talks Secession", not Chris Hedges' article. No wonder readers didn't like it. Disqus has gone CRAZY.
 
 
+6 # DurangoKid 2012-11-19 23:48
Yeah, but when?

And when it does happen, how many will blame only themselves? Much of the 99% has successfully internalized the propaganda paradigm of the 1%. According to the hyper-individua listic meme, success and failure are completely under the control of the individual. Collectivism of any kind is anathema. Is the 1% counting on the 99% to blame itself as the economy turns to do-do? If they are, they might just pull it off.
 
 
-16 # artic fox 2012-11-20 02:00
This is all BS I don't know what are the ages of the writer and the persons making these statements. Why I mention age - if you are under 60 you haven't a clue as to what happened in 1948 when 9 Arab countries promised to sweep Israel into the sea. that didn't happen. And after fruitless attempts by Israel to have peace talks all that it got was rebuffs from the Arab side. Yasser Arafat was the leading terrorists in his day with the Hezbollah,Hamas like groups who have only one interest in mind, using the Joseph Goebbels propaganda techniques that the late-unlamented nazi-loving Grand Mufti of Jerusalem learned when he took refuge in 1940s in Berlin.

All the Arabs had to do was to sit down at whatever international venue and work out a peace agreement and countless times they didn't. All the billions of dollars that is available from Saudi Arabia, the Arab Emirates could be given to those in Gaza and the West Bank to alleviate the poverty, squalor et al that they have allowed to perpetuate. And why don;t they do it - because they want to keep those who live in Gaza as a perpetual fester in the Middle East and protect their own un-democratic regimes.
 
 
+12 # HeidiStevenson 2012-11-20 07:54
You first need to realize that Chris Hedges is over 60. So am I. The fact is that the truth of what happened back then is not as you describe. As a person with a Jewish heritage, I am ashamed of what's been done. Israel DID invade and steal that land. The rest of the world did nothing for the Jews - until they opted to help them steal a piece of land to form a wedge into the middle east, where "their" oil was mistakenly placed by some god.

You ignore the terrorism of the founding of Israel, of the fact that the earliest leaders of that country were nothing but terrorists, guilty of nothing different than the freedom fighters of today.

By choosing to believe the propaganda - the lies - of the founding of Israel, you promulgate the worst of what they do today against a helpless people, who've been driven from their homes, their land and ability to care for themselves stolen from them, even renamed as Israeli inventions (witness jaffa oranges). What's most tragic here is a people whose history has been replete with persecution and genocide now doing precisely the same as has been done to them - only worse, as they appear to be successful in wiping a people from the face of the earth.

Blaming the "Arabs" for the plight of the Palestinians is misleading. They weren't the ones attacked. They had no place to speak for Palestine. That would be like blaming the US for not sitting down to a peace discussion on Belize.
 
 
-5 # brux 2012-11-20 12:46
This is nonsense, and you are not of Jewish heritage. That's the latest propaganda ploy here, all the anti-Israelis pretend they are Jewish. The toxic evil of what Israelis are against merely justified their harsh actions. There is no hope for peace when the Palestinians feel they can lie and fool everyone.


The Zionist movement started in the 1890's by trying to collect money and buy land in what is now Israel. During the whole time Jews live in the area, on bought land or not they were attacked and the victims of discrimination. They have a right to independence and peace even if they have to fight for it.

If you had Jewish heritage you have zero understanding of your history.
 
 
0 # brux 2013-04-04 09:57
and by the way Chris Hedges is NOT over 60, he was born in 1956 which makes him 57.

The "Arabs" are to blame on two levels. First, in joining with the Nazis and supporting the extermination of the Jews they made the creation of the state of Israel for the people in the local area necessary ... and really any minority living in a Muslim country ought to have the right to their own state because they will never have equal rights in an Islamic country.

Then secondly, Arabs are to blame because instead of realizing Israel should have and does have the right to exist, they have tried to destroy Israel and kill Jews since the creation leading to a neverending terrorist war ... driven by Islamic hate and intolerence, NOT Israel's defense of its own existence.
 
 
+3 # MidwestTom 2012-11-20 07:36
I agree with Chris on the coming fate of many, but my example is much closer to home; the island of Hispaniola, where the country of Haiti is overcrowded, very poor, and getting worse despite gigantic amounts of foreign aid; this while the other half of the island occupied by the Dominican Republic is clean uncrowded and progressing.

The Chinese defined the problem as over population and restrict child bearing as a cure. The entire world needs to follow their example, and restrict child bearing to three per women. I know that many of you will disagree, but look at all of the children in Gaza, born into an overcrowded teeming mess. Are the societies who voluntarily limit their reproduction destined to be overrun and destroyed by the mass , normally less civilized and less educated, reproducers? Of so these doomsday movies may be an foretelling of the future.
 
 
-8 # brux 2012-11-20 12:41
Some good points there. I agree on overpopulation. Gaza is a terrorist production factory and having allowed such a situation to occur statehood is out of the question at this point, you do not give statehood, recognition and responsibility for sovereignty to a criminal organization.
 
 
-4 # Dion Giles 2012-11-20 17:47
The problem isn't reproduction, it's Zionist overlords squeezing a large population into a 20 mile x 5 mile Bantustan. The solution is staring the world in the face: dismantle the racist state of Israel, respect exiles' right of return to their homeland and encourage foreign settlers to return to theirs. It will happen by negotiation to form a secular, democratic, non-racist Palestine with a compassionate deal for the foreign settlers, or by force with unpredictable results after the Middle East oil runs out and a vastly outnumbered Israel loses its place on the American teat.
 
 
+4 # Rita Walpole Ague 2012-11-20 09:02
Very seldom discussed: All those people worldwide, including U.S. govt. agents and military connected who have witnessed firsthand all the slaughter, torture, enslavement by the evil, greed and power addicted Zionist rulers, and who have had it, and quietly and not so quietly hold in contempt the 'holding hands across the pond' villainaire 1%ers.

As more and more folks, worldwide, are beginning to recognize, it's acomin', global revolution. Or implosion, as some more willing to bow down to the villainaires are predicting. What a mess from hell we're leaving our kids and future generations!

Please, Chris Hedges, keep leading us on the truth path. You, Assange, Manning and all other so brave whistleblowers and truthtellers are our true heroes.
 
 
+6 # wwway 2012-11-20 09:49
Every American needs to read Jack London's 1906 novel, The Iron Heel. 100 years later nothing has changed. The elite create and control the message and the church. They create the social lies we live by and don't question. The onus for democracy rests with the working folk. Unfortunately for all of us many don't pay attention as they have taken up the arguements and purpose of the elite (the iron heel).
 
 
-6 # The Voice of Reason 2012-11-20 10:24
So ... we're convinced the Gazans are telling only the pure truth about everything, and that their actions are not motivated by selfish, corrupt, and murderous leaders who have abandoned the Qur'an?

It means something when people claim to adhere to a particular religion and then violate every command given by their Book of Guidance.

I mean, it should mean something. RSN bloggers seem to think nothing of it.
 
 
0 # dovelane1 2012-11-24 02:20
Dear Voice, I agree with the idea that many so-called religious leaders have tried to redefine their book of guidance to suit their agendas. Any person who advocates violence for the resolution of conflicts has failed their belief system.

Violence begets violence, which begets more violence. As Martin Luther King, Jr. said, an eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind."

The same can be said for all religious leaders who ignore the basic and prime tenets of their religions to suit their own purposes.

To me, their actions then become extensions of their own egos, and their decisions are being used to shore up a poor or mediocre self-image; no one who likes, accepts, and understands himself or herself would treat others like this.

These kinds of attitudes from these leaders, both Palestinian and Israeli, are a prerequisite for the scapegoating of others.

Those who deny accountability, those who will not hold themselves responsible for their emotional responses, all this leads to blaming others, and to taking personally, everything that happens to them.
 
 
0 # The Voice of Reason 2013-07-05 16:31
Actually, Tevye from Fiddler on the Roof said it.
 

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