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Decker reports: "Although no substantive policies have changed since the votes were cast, these five executives are throwing tantrums over the results - and taking out their frustrations on the American people."

Papa John Schnatter the CEO of Papa John's International has threatened to raise the cost of pies and layoff employees. (photo: Papa Johns)
Papa John Schnatter the CEO of Papa John's International has threatened to raise the cost of pies and layoff employees. (photo: Papa Johns)

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+81 # MainStreetMentor 2012-11-16 17:19
I pledged to never again buy a pizza from Pappa Johns! You can take that pledge to the bank.
 
 
+25 # Vardoz 2012-11-17 09:36
I never eat that crap anyway but yes. I post things on my local bulletin boards and put flyers on cars parked at Walmart for example. People need to take action.
 
 
+24 # grandone@charter.net 2012-11-16 21:16
What an amazing collection of unfeeling pigs. They shoud all be herded onto a truck and taken to the slaughterhouse. Not to be killed but to witness and realize what they actually do besides golf and cigars.
 
 
0 # elijahblue 2012-11-20 02:25
You need to take some meds or you might really say what you mean. You need to start with Congress with the "an amazing collection of unfeeling pigs." Then work your way down to those that have to live with ill conceived laws of which the Lawmakers admitted did not read the Law they passed. As educated as the lawmakers are supposed to be they forgot the laws of consequences. Now they get to blame all those meany business people for any problems created by their pet law. I have already been notified by my Primary Provider, that as of the first of the year, Medicare reimbursements to physician will be reduced by 28%. He is considering whether to stop taking Medicare patients or stop his practice and teach. There are 8 other doctors in his practice that are considering the same and other options outside of medicine.That begs, who will treat the roughly 15 million more people brought into the ObamaCare program; and of course if you don't get insurance, there is the $3,000. fine one must pay. My, my but I'm sure it will get better. Just a few more dollars in taxes will do.
 
 
0 # Joe Bob 2012-11-20 09:25
Who will treat ??? You mean who will push drugs and support the insurance companies and Hospitals.
 
 
+34 # DPM 2012-11-16 21:43
I, for one, will never patronize any of these companies, not just the franchises, but companies, ever again! And, I will see to it that I tell everyone I know just what these a**holes are doing to average, hard working people. Perhaps they won't go broke and perhaps it will cost others their jobs, but it is the right thing to do. If their employees have to make sacrifices, it should be to hurt these jerks! Maybe hurt them more in bad press than money. But for people (animals) like them, their reputation is really important. Just look at how they whine! Worse than spoiled children.
 
 
0 # Joe Bob 2012-11-20 09:27
They are people, Animals are not vindictive, unless they are modeling their owner.
 
 
+29 # xflowers 2012-11-17 01:06
Yes, boycott these businesses. I sure will.
 
 
+31 # SusanT136 2012-11-17 03:11
These are crocodile tears these guys are shedding. Tankel is crying about how tough times are, basically saying that profits are super tight, yet they have the money to build a new "green" model Applebees in Harlem to the tune of $4 million. I'm all for green buildings, but it rings very hollow when he cries about Obamacare chipping into his profits - especially since restaurant work is so notoriously low paid. How many of his workers now, just like at Walmart, get Medicaid, courtesy of the taxpayers, while Tankel pockets his profits?
 
 
+34 # Bruce Gruber 2012-11-17 04:26
These 1% egos simply prove what laborers and 'underlings' have always known. Most BOSSES are narrow minded dimwits focused, narcissisticly on their own simplistic "key" to success with no empathy, consideration or appreciation for the working people who produce their product or deliver their service. Transferring 'bossism' to the arena of public service leadership is as wrongheaded as any political system can possibly get.
 
 
0 # elijahblue 2012-11-20 02:29
Blame the "bosses" since I know you know they wrote the ObamaCare law just so it would give the man excuse to get rid of workers and make more money.
 
 
+26 # RnR 2012-11-17 04:39
Don't be stupid - call these sob's out. Let them close, if you look closely enough you'll probably discover they were going to close anyway or are the benefits of some behind the scenes financial games.

Boycott them, and force them out, every stinking one of them.
 
 
+38 # jcdav 2012-11-17 05:40
“If I leave the prices the same, but say on the menu that there is a 5 percent surcharge for Obamacare, customers have two choices. They can either pay it and tip 15 or 20 percent, or if they really feel so inclined, they can reduce the amount of tip they give to the server, who is the primary beneficiary of Obamacare,” Metz explained to The Huffington Post.

Well, I offer a third alternative--BO YCOTT THIS ASSHOLE!
 
 
-37 # MidwestTom 2012-11-17 06:00
Our accounting firm recommends that we drop our good employee insurance coverage and simply pay the fine for doing so. I guess somebody has to pay for the additional 30 million insured.
 
 
+28 # Barbara K 2012-11-17 06:26
MT: People pay their own insurance under Obamacare. It is not Government Insurance. Don't worry you won't be paying for someone else to have insurance. Don't drop your insurance, it is just a dirty trick of your employers. They get huge tax breaks for providing insurance. Check out:
healthcare.gov
 
 
+43 # JJS 2012-11-17 06:46
Yes, do that.
Get rid of employer based healthcare! Why should employers be involved in their employees healthcare anyway?

Health insurance coverage was once considered a benefit and part of the compensation package but now it is being used as a stick! The US needs single payer, universal coverage healthcare-LIKE MANY OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE. It works for them, very well, thank you, and can work for this country.
 
 
+1 # Joe Bob 2012-11-20 09:30
Yes, yes yes yes and Yes
 
 
+9 # dovelane1 2012-11-18 01:32
MT - You're no better than Boehner and the T-nuts You want us to be afraid.

Are you afraid, and, if so, about what?

If the posts are correct, your accounting firm doesn't know what they are talking about. Perhaps it's time to dump them instead of your employees.
 
 
+4 # dkonstruction 2012-11-19 09:02
Quoting MidwestTom:
Our accounting firm recommends that we drop our good employee insurance coverage and simply pay the fine for doing so. I guess somebody has to pay for the additional 30 million insured.


Was this the same firm that told Ford that it would be cheaper for them to let people die when the Ford Pinto exploded when hit from behind compared with the cost of fixing the problem? sounds like the same mentality to me.
 
 
+37 # Barbara K 2012-11-17 06:23
I believe that the election had nothing to do with the choices of these CEOs. These are just worker intimidation and manipulation tactics to get their own way. They really need to treat their workers better if they want our business. We won't shop their businesses if that is how they treat their workers. As for the layoffs and the firings and the closings, I believe they were already planned to happen anyway. One thing we should know for sure, is that CEOs are not to be trusted. People are nothing but a way to reach a big bottom line. Companies have always bee rotten to workers, that is why Unions were needed.
 
 
+27 # bingers 2012-11-17 07:23
So 3 cents a pizza extra cost will hurt this guy? What a scumbag. While we have a Papa John's pizza 3 blocks from the house I never buy them anyway. Have you noticed that all the wingnut pizza joints, P Js, Domino's and Godfather's have some of the crappiest pizza on earth?

Besides, anyone living in the Chicago area like I, or anyone in the NY area has a myriad of excellent choices that no chain can possibly compete with.

Maybe California would feel a loss. There are a few good pizza places there that I found, but most of them are as bad as the scumbag pizza joints like the forementioned.
 
 
+25 # bingers 2012-11-17 07:24
Any rational business would be a huge fan of universal healthcare.
 
 
+18 # Texas Aggie 2012-11-17 08:12
Metz doesn't list the other option of not patronizing his establishments in the first place.
 
 
+12 # bingers 2012-11-17 14:44
Quoting Texas Aggie:
Metz doesn't list the other option of not patronizing his establishments in the first place.


Yeah, the only think I regret is not being able to boycott something too crappy to buy in the first place. 8^)
 
 
+23 # Vardoz 2012-11-17 09:26
People fought hard for unions, fare wages, fare labor practices and job stability. We cannot expect these corporations for care about us. They don't and that fight needs to happen again. We can't just sit back if we want changes. We have to help Obama and our selves.
 
 
0 # elijahblue 2012-11-20 02:42
Your joking of course. It was Obama that signed the law that started this whole mess.This is not a socialist country yet, but we have four more years to help Obama make it one. Go for it.
 
 
+24 # Vardoz 2012-11-17 09:34
I wouldn't mind paying .14 cents more for a pizza if it meant that people would get benefits.
 
 
+19 # michelle 2012-11-17 10:41
Aetna Ceo says if Obama is elected, "“The American people are going to suffer because we’ll lay them off — because we know how to respond to these kinds of situations.”

Can a company be any more Anti-American than this? I think this is a terrorist act against America. I want him charged with sedition or at least interfering with an American election.

When you opt to boycott, send a letter to the corporate offices letting them know. They may not notice a single person boycotting but they will surely perk up and pay attention when the letter arrives. I have sent mine to Applebees telling them I will not use their restaurant in Arcata when I pick my daughter up from HSU.
 
 
+15 # Regina 2012-11-17 12:08
That's blackmail, which is supposed to be a crime, but I don't see any pressure for compliance with those laws. After all, they bought the law makers.
 
 
+10 # CAMUS1111 2012-11-17 15:35
Papa John = Mother Fuc'er
 
 
+7 # Charles3000 2012-11-17 19:58
Bye bye, Papa John....how dumb can a guy be...????
 
 
+3 # NAVYVET 2012-11-17 20:51
Do not boycott the restaurants!! That's what these psychopath CEOs hope for, to give an excuse to fire more workers and whine about it. Here's a better plan:

Patronize these junk food places more than usual. Order something cheap. Eat it, or if you can't because it's so yucky, conspicuously throw it away. Personally hand the waiter a TRIPLE tip, which would be about the same amount you'd leave if you'd ordered a regular meal. If enough of us did this for half a year, the psychos would stop griping. And, not least, bring BIG pressure on Congress for a worker protection clause in the primary Obamacare law.
 
 
+1 # Mrcead 2012-11-19 01:23
I get what you are saying but this only rewards a spoiled child throwing a tantrum. Succumbing to outside forces beyond ones control is part of business in this country, the workers WILL find other jobs and move on - history teaches.

No more propping up businesses whose time has come. There are plenty in the shadows waiting for a chance to grow. Let them have their chance. I find it difficult to feel sympathy for a business owner who at one point did not think about the businesses and employees he / she displaced when they rose up. So now, it is merely their turn at the chopping block and nothing more.

A Mega Pizza chain?

The world can definitely live without one - and a lot healthier too. History teaches.
 
 
+8 # Mrcead 2012-11-18 06:25
No one can make you plan to fail. In the good old days, a businessman took a hit and ate it. Enough hits meant the business was no longer profitable. Now the new thing is passing the costs onto consumers and workers. WHY? Raised costs is a business owner's problem, not the consumer or the worker's. They've no vested interest in a company's profitability. Why not do the decent thing and close your doors if you do not like the changes and allow another company to take your place instead. One who can operate in a changing environment.

How in the world did businesses survive when the tax rate was in the 70% range?

If you can't make your goal in the time of record low taxes, good riddance.
 
 
+8 # PGreen 2012-11-18 10:59
These CEOS are simply adopting tactics of the "Shock Doctrine," as explained by Naomi Klein, whereupon oligarchs take advantage of a crisis to introduce or increase right-wing development policies. In this case, these CEOs go one better; they face no crisis, (not one different from what they would face if the election had turned out differently,) but by declaring that there is a crisis, they have a PR excuse to cut benefits and lay off workers.
If they actually do this, chances are that they would have found a way to do it regardless. The spin might be different, but not much else.
 
 
+1 # hldrummond 2012-11-18 16:43
Boycotting is not enough. Demonstrate! Get the attention of the press.
 
 
+1 # hldrummond 2012-11-18 16:44
Boycotting is not enough! Demonstrate in some creative way. Get the attention of the Press.
 
 
-3 # rowbyrd 2012-11-19 10:39
You guys need to wake up. Every business in America is going to have to react someway to increased expenses. What are you going to do, boycott everyone?
 
 
+1 # dkonstruction 2012-11-19 10:46
Quoting rowbyrd:
You guys need to wake up. Every business in America is going to have to react someway to increased expenses. What are you going to do, boycott everyone?


Not everyone...only those that super exploit their employees (e.g., Wallmart) and those employers whose response to their candidate losing an election is to layoff employees rather than upping the price of a pizza by 10 cents in order to provide their employees with the health insurance that all workers (and all people) should have.
 
 
0 # Vermont Grandma 2012-11-19 20:07
This kind of voter intimidation should be illegal. This is a great opportunity to insist that legislation is passed nationally and in each state to assure that NO employer may seek political contributions from employees, nor threaten the employee with consequences for expressing his or her political beliefs, nor threaten to terminate or reduce employment as the result of an election outcome, nor carry out such threats. It is perfectly obvious to everyone outside of the US that allowing this kind of intimidation to occur is completely undemocratic. Employers who want behave in such a manner should move to some other country which doesn't pretend to be a democracy.
 
 
0 # hldrummond 2012-11-21 12:28
I am a liberal who grew up in a family with two junion men. Unions are not the divil's handmaiden, The Wall family already recieves the lion's share of the wealth in this country. The other CEO's aren't facing bankrupcy, either. They should learn that to whom much is given, much is expected.
 

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