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The FBI has released a 423-page file that it kept for years on Howard Zinn. They were concerned that he was a communist activist. What the FBI has not released is the capacity to spy on American citizens.

Environmental portrait, Howard Zinn, 06/15/80. (photo: A People's History)

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+32 # Guest 2010-08-01 20:43

Anyone who does anything the kleptocracy doesn't like is suspect. But Howard Zinn was a better American than those opposed to him.

+6 # Guest 2010-08-02 08:09

Right on! Right on! HOW TRUE! A wonderful American!

+34 # Guest 2010-08-01 21:11

What an extraordinary man. We are so fortunate to have had him in our midst, to show us how to go against the grain when it oppresses us, with intelligence, humor and grace.

+9 # earlymusicus 2010-08-01 22:54

We'd better buy up his books while we still can - you never know when this government is going to start banning books by authors they deem "subversive." I've heard that Zinn's history of the U.S. was the best and most comprehensive history and that it dealt with facts, rather than political parties' ideology of what American history they fantasize it to be. Look at how the Texas publishers are re-writing the history textbooks for the schools now. I'm going to get Zinn's book while I still can. And then I will probably have to keep that hidden along with my paperback copy of the Constitution because I wouldn't be at all surprise if my copy of the Constitution becomes banned and dangerous to own as well.

-22 # Guest 2010-08-02 07:11

God bless your heart. You are a bit paranoid. His People's History filled out all history sections in Books-a-Million, Borders etc. and nobody wants them. I read the book carefully - a distorted view of US history as a chain of crimes and oppression. Stay away from this left-wing history. Equally stay away from the right-wing Patriotic History of US, which is gaining popularity now. USE your noodles and do not fall for either extreme.

+5 # Guest 2010-08-02 10:09

I am anxious to learn exactly which of the "paranoid" statements of Dr. Zinn's were distorted the only thing extreme about dr.zinn was his patience, tolerance, and sense of humor.

+8 # Guest 2010-08-02 11:54

I guess you think that the genocide of the American Indian or the slavery and oppression of black people are just left-wing myths.

-6 # andresorges1960s 2010-08-03 07:41

To rundeep regarding genocide of American Indians and slavery of black people: Chill out a bit. I did not say that these things are left-wing myths. My problem with historians like Zinn (Eric Foner and Herbert Apteker are the same company as well as less known such as Patricia Nelson Limerick) is that they project past events to the present day or judge past events by present-day standards. One small test for you. Answer one question: Do you seriously believe that present American society owes reparation money to black people as a reimbursment for slavery their ancestors had to endure? If you agree to disuss this "issue" and even answer postively to the question, you are already in bed with people who distort history. The Mexicans are surely entitled to get back American Southwest (oops, these lands had originally belonged to the Indians; so we will give them to the Indians not to the Mexicans). My advise as profesisonal historian: stay away from activist historians both left and right.

+3 # Guest 2010-08-03 13:51

I don't think anyone here is claiming that the US government (state or federal) should boot everyone off of their land and give it back to the descendants of indigenous peoples, or go further in to debt giving the inflation-adjusted utility value in dollars of a 40-acre plot of land an a mule to every slave descendant (divided among that slave's offspring).

Maybe someone thinks these are good ideas, but I haven't seen anything to that effect, and nothing in People's History suggests that that's a practicable course. There's a big difference between pointing out that slavery reparations were promised and saying that we need to go ahead and try to pay them nearly 150 years after-the-fact, for example.

+1 # Guest 2010-08-03 15:52

andresorges1960s,
Judge in today's standards, with more knowledge and evidence. Certainly, put it all in perspective, but, lynching, torture, religious and racial hatred has always been practiced by idiots and opposed by more sensible people. Americans of color are still despised and discriminated against, today. These acts prove how much we haven't changed. This punitive, odious behavior, limiting equal rights to women, gays, immigrants, etc. is a stigmatism to our whole nation. Keeping people down burdens society. The object of a great nation is to help every individual aspire and become the most his ability and potential offer. "Affirmative Action" is an attempt to level the playing fields. Until all neighborhoods are voluntarily mixed, and we're not executed in greater numbers because of race, we have some serious compensating, amending, lifting our brethren for the betterment of our nation.

-2 # Guest 2010-08-05 14:15

to thomasaf: with all due respect, do not get me started with mentioning the affirmative action. Look what you wrote and then tell me if it makes sense or not. You make a statement (1) "Affirmative Action" is an attempt to level the playing field" (you forgot to mention that it is a system of measures imposed by the government on society to elevate some groups of people ate the expense of the others.
(2) Then you make another statement "Until all neighborhoods are voluntarily mixed..." and so forth, there will be no improvement.
Here is the key word "voluntarily" mixed. I am all for affirmative action if it is conducted from below on a voluntary basis by people themselves. Yet when the government steps in and begins to impose it, you will get a reverse racism. Prioritizing group rights over individual rights is a sure way for a social disaster and balkanization of society that we are witnessing now in a form of PC police and multiculturalis m. Comradely yours, andre sorgen

+1 # Guest 2010-08-07 10:20

I assume that your righteousness stems from a belief that an objective truth is possible in the context of cataloging history. I would say that it is and that Howard Zinn's book does the best at uncovering it. It is a work of ideological subversion, not ideology. The only motive Zinn had was to honestly disprove the falsities that pervade our regular perception of history which thus enable the current ideological system. If we didn't have radical views on history we wouldn't have an Enlightenment that inspired an American Revolution. The radical roots of our country have been stolen out from under us by a Fox News-narrative-driven reactionary Tea Party.

0 # arugula 2010-12-14 09:44

mainly you're on target, but.... You think it was the enlightenment that sparked the revolution? Actually it was greed that sparked the revolution... merchants didn't want to repay England (stamp and tea taxes) for the huge amount of money and soldier's lives England had spent securing our Canadian borders against the French,, for the benefit of the Colonies!!! The monied classes manipulated colonists by SAYING it was about abuse, but it was truly merchants not repaying part of England's war debt they spent on us. You need to read some more history too.

+1 # Guest 2010-08-07 10:21

Dissidents have been painted as ideological in an age where people claim "the end of history" and that liberal-democracy has finally won. This is the ideology of our day and books like "A People's History" are our only weapons against its monopoly on history. In an age where academia claims that we are "post-politics" and politicians claim that some issues are "above partisanship", we need to "re-politicize" our lives (see the work of Slavoj Zizek, Alain Baidou) and stop pretending that the truth is ANYTHING BUT PARTIAL. Claims that books like Zinn's are leftist mythology and ideology, comparable to true neoliberal propaganda like "A Patriotic History", is the very thing that enables the current system to continue as an inherent, unchallengeable , system. This is totalitarianism , the actual workings of the system notwithstanding .

0 # Guest 2010-08-07 10:21

Your cries of an "objective" history are merely the idealogical tendrils of neoliberal free market capitalism soiling books that challenge its own "objectivity". Claiming that history is "objective" and that Truth takes no sides IS IDEOLOGY. Examine your righteous, and I must say unseemly patronizing, attitude toward history. You are not the stalwart defendant of Truth. You smother it with your championship of an "unpolitical", "objective" view of history. History is anything but apolitical.
"The time for liberal-democratic moralistic blackmail is over. Our side no longer has to go on apologizing. [Your] side had better start soon." {"First As Tragedy Then As Farce, by Slovoj Zizek, 2009}
With Sincere Comradeship, I hope you re-examine your complicity with Really Existing Ideology.

+1 # Guest 2010-08-04 11:57

don't you know the "Indians" we stole the southwest U.S. from ARE Mexicans - and vice-versa. The current Mexican border is arbitrary; the Indian nations were spread across the Americas - north, central and south. We drew that line, thereby creating Mexico. The so-called Indian peoples lived on both sides.

-1 # arugula 2010-12-14 09:33

Zinn advocated NONE of the things you mention here. He presents our history exactly as it happened in it's own time and how people of that time reacted and felt then. If you choose to view it through modern sensibilities, it isn't anything Zinn wrote, but your own modern brain making judgement. What we did to the people who owned the land before we stole it and murdered as many of them as we could is a matter of well known historical fact. Tthere is nothing to argue about. You are trying to stop people from readin it and making up their own minds. Zinn is dangerous to nazis, fascists and tyrants is closer to the truth here.

+2 # Guest 2010-08-05 06:01

As a student I lived in DC from 1966-72 and was very involved with the Student Organizing Committee against the VN war. As a professor of anthropology now, Howard zinn has been one of my role models. What we often forget is that a primary role of a university professor is critique of the status quo and conventional wisdom and mainstream views of reality. This is exactly what Howard Zinn accomplished. Although one can legitimately critique various particulars in his writings, overall they accomplished an important critique of standard U.S. "wisdom."

0 # Guest 2010-08-05 14:27

to Gregory: I still naively believe that the primary role of a university professor is teaching students and exposing them to different viewpoints and letting them make judgment and chose on their own. It is sad that nowadays the majority of my university colleagues (in humanities of course) indeed subscribe to your notion that "critique of the status quo and conventional wisdom and mainstream views of reality" is the major job of a college instructor. That is why you can freely do your postings under your own name and I (an untenured guy) have to use an alias like some dissident in former Soviet Union.

0 # arugula 2010-12-14 09:54

Instilling the status quo over learning to use your own brain to make up your own mind is what all teachers used to do... the old ones who still do their duty by their kids are being hounded out of the system for it. The suppression of education.. for the poor and working classes comes from above and is designed to create whole classes of tractable people, too ignorant to figure out when they are being screwed and by whom.... it is to make them manageable little worker bees who don't dare complain.

0 # arugula 2010-12-14 09:25

If you aren't too lazy to do the research you will find that Zinn's is factually, verifiably correct. Don't take anyone's word.. read it yourself and then decide. Don't ever listen to anyone who tells you NOT to check information BEFORE making decisions as to it's value or validity. They are usually trying to keep real information out of your view. The only reason people don't pick it up is that they don;t realize what it really is... a factual history of this country the way it actually played out. Always judge for yourself.

+15 # Guest 2010-08-01 23:19

Howard Zinn was a HERO and true patriot and citizen of Planet Earth. He saw things clearly and wasn't afraid to take a stand. We owe him a huge debt of gratitude.

+15 # Guest 2010-08-02 01:24

Howard Zinn, during a very long period of activism, never gave up the fight for a more just United States, and a more just world. Patriotic Americans, those that trully love the real ideals that the United States is supposed to be promoting, can take many lessons from Howard Zinn. As long as we keep fighting for true justice, true social reform, the true meaning of our constitutional rights, we can never lose. Zinn talked the talk, he walked the walk, and never gave up.

+6 # Guest 2010-08-02 02:01

A most admirable and courageous man fully qualified for Bob Shetterly's portrait of an American who stood up for the truth!

+5 # Guest 2010-08-02 02:33

Mr. Zinn cost me a job at a book shop because I misquoted him on the interview. I, nonetheless, enjoyed very much reading him and his political and social views. Great author!

+1 # Guest 2010-08-03 06:53

If you misquoted him, then you are responsible for your job loss. Responsibility lite, eh? Claiming he was the cause! For shame.

0 # arugula 2010-12-14 09:58

He didn't blame Zinn... you made that up and then chided him for it, but it was all YOU!

+10 # Guest 2010-08-02 03:00

It would have been more shocking to discover that the US Government-FBI had NOT been keeping files on Zinn. Those who understand the awesome responsibility of citizenship and membership in the species Man are bound to be watched carefully by the mediocre.

I wonder how Ralph Nader's file is shaping up....

+5 # Guest 2010-08-02 09:09

Ralph Nader? What about Noam Chomsky? I will be his file is a nice fat one. Keep writing Noam.

+7 # Guest 2010-08-02 03:24

Is it just me or does the file via the link seem to be something that FOX news would create? If ever there was a patriot and national hero, it was Howard Zinn. Can he ever be forgiven for documenting the fact that the "common people" had more to do with making this country exactly what we boast about than all the politicians, rich & powerful corporations combinded ever have.

+3 # Guest 2010-08-02 04:05

The FBI has long incompetently taken its cues from the Soviet internal security agencies.

It is fearful that Americans will do to the current government what the Soviets did to its own intelligentsia.

Smart people are a constant danger to the rulers. Since the rulers while viciously thuggish tend not to be very smart, they fear the guys who can clearly analyze problems and come up with workable solutions. Surely such guys will someday supplant the current rulers, so they must be watched and stopped if they do anything at all that might arouse the citizenry.

The smart guys can always be the most convenient scapegoats since they find it hard to believe that most people can't see through the lies rullers tell.

+8 # Guest 2010-08-02 04:20

It is distressing in the extreme to learn over the last few years just how unept the FBI, and particularly the leadertship of the FBI, has been in so many cases. Beginninbg with its inception under J Edgar Hoover the leadership was small minded, paranoid, power hungry, and easily diverted from its role in protecting this country from real threats to civil society.

It is critical to our future as an open, free, democracy that society be protected from these unconstitutiona l abuses of power.

+6 # Guest 2010-08-02 10:07

The FBI has become, like most of the agencies, the antithesis of its stated mission. The CIA, FDA, USDA, OSHA, DoD, etc., have allowed themselves to be controlled by outside powers, mega-corporations but also the Federal Reserve & Wall Street. The government now seems to fear the people and is trying desperately to control us.

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It is distressing in the extreme to learn over the last few years just how inept the FBI, and particularly the leadership of the FBI, has been in so many cases. Beginning with its inception under J Edgar Hoover the leadership was small minded, paranoid, power hungry, and easily diverted from its role in protecting this country from real threats to civil society.

It is critical to our future as an open, free, democracy that society be protected from these unconstitutiona l abuses of power.

+1 # Guest 2010-08-02 21:02

Big bother's watching. We watch him back.

+7 # Guest 2010-08-02 04:46

Somehow I moved from the Zinn story to that of the Anthony Weiner comments on the House floor regarding the vote to provide health care for 9/11 responders. Not all that different reallt - Zinn stood up to power, politicians who abuse it, and for the people. dministration. Weiner is standing up similarly, the way I hope the Obama administration will soon begin to do.

+5 # Guest 2010-08-02 04:57

What strikes me as I read is that the FBI went to great lengths to find out the "truth" about activities which Zinn was clearly quite public about. Most were legal expressions of free speech, some were public acts of civil disobedience, some simply expressions of support for others who had performed acts of civil disobedience. But there weren't many, if any, secrets here.

+4 # Guest 2010-08-02 04:58

If 400 pages is the best they can do for a long and productive life .... he is being recognized as the (near) saint he was.

+2 # Guest 2010-08-02 05:24

I see no objection to the FBI investigating activist thinkers such as Mr. Zinn. In a nation of 300 million people, we need to know from where a possible threat may be coming from. However, to delve into the life of a Harry Zinn, Martin Luther King or any citizen who is speaking out for what he believes is justice solely for gaining a choke hold on them if they become too hostile to the establishment, is the mark of a totalitarian state,

Many Americans who have been investigated by the FBI or the witch hunts for Communists that took place in the early 1950s wear the distinction with great pride.

+5 # Guest 2010-08-02 09:37

Duffy, you may not object to investigation of "activist " thinkers. I certainly think it is wrong to threaten people just because they don't toe the line.
It is a waste of money which should be spent on individuals, who truly threaten the country. We NEED independant thinkers, who don't blindly "buy" everything the government states. We all know, that we have been sold lies so many times in the history of the country.

We certainly need courageous independant intelligent men and women who will speak the truth regardless of the consequences

+4 # Guest 2010-08-02 10:49

Howard Zinn was a "radical" historian, in that he looked at the root of the historical epoch or decade he was studying--evidence from the time from as many sources as possible; especially the oppressed and forgotten voices. To call Zinn's work a Marxist interpretation of history is to over-emphasize a boring German's old book that hasn't been read much for a long time.

Many Americans' lives never recovered from the blacklisting that started in the 1950's, and many came to Canada. I can think of a few friends and relations who have made Canada richer by leaving the "Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave" FBI surveillance.

+1 # Guest 2010-08-02 21:04

'Its a jungle out there.'

+3 # Guest 2010-08-02 05:25

just an irony observed: in the classifications listed as to "type" or "nationality", (p3) the FBI have "Fascist (Italian)" but under German, just German . . . hmmm . . .guess Germans were more white . . . ?

+1 # Guest 2010-08-02 21:05

When is this observation from?

+4 # Guest 2010-08-02 05:56

A truly good man who found his truth in The People, not Official, propagandized history.

+1 # Guest 2010-08-02 21:11

One chicken that breaks out of the coop (at least should) make(s) it easier for the rest of us.

The Western world's climax between the twin titans of big capitalism and big government is still not- unfortunately for us ordinary folk- satisfactorily resolved.

We can do better.

+5 # Guest 2010-08-02 06:14

What a stupid and ridiculous waste of taxpayers' money. This is totally outrageous. How big is Chomsky's file? When did they stop accumulating evidence on him. At least, the FBI had the good sense to stop persecuting Zinn after the downfall of L. Patrick Gray in the Watergate Era.

+11 # Guest 2010-08-02 06:35

Howard was a gift to my students for years. Every spring, when they had finished reading A People's History, he came to visit my classroom. His "fee" was a charitable donation! He truly lived his philosophy. He was a dear friend, and I am so proud to have several of his books on my home shelf. You Can't be Neutral on a Moving Train was a perfect autobiography.

+7 # Guest 2010-08-02 06:40

I lovingly refer to Zinn's book " A People's History of the United States" as my "Bible." To those of you who've read it you understand why. This is real "history", much of it in the words of those who shaped and created it. This is not part fairy tale, myth and ancient propaganda designed to cower and control. It is the words and deeds of those who have held the reins of power for centuries and it's intent is to empower and expose. This SHOULD be standard reading at the high school level and absolutely required of ANY college graduate. As for the FBI investigating him, well, Zinn would surely not be surprised and in fact might be pleased. It's a testament to the power of the truth and the lengths the deniers of such will go to to first discredit and then obfuscate.

+8 # Guest 2010-08-02 07:16

That the FBI was investigating Dr. Zinn and to such a great extent says a lot more about who and what type of people they are than it does about Dr. Zinn

+3 # Guest 2010-08-02 07:50

In 1968 I was just out of 4 years in the military, living in Panama City, Fla. driving a cab and going to college. I am not consciously aware of any book having a greater impact on me than Zinn's "SNCC: The New Abolitionists". It is the one book that I always cite as having most dramatically affected me. It came along at the most important pivotal point in my life, dovetailing with all of the major national and personal events of that time that changed me radically from the 21-year-old, conservative kid from New Jersey: Hippies, Hair, Drugs, Free Love, Love, Marriage, Politics (Democratic Convention, War, Dissent, McCarthy, Wallace, Racism, Civil Rights), etc.

+9 # Guest 2010-08-02 08:04

I very much enjoyed Professor Zinn's great history book!
I came from a communist country 54 years ago. We had a revolution against the bastards. I was a ROTC Staff Sargent in the army and commanded a 'rebel' infantry squad during the fighting!
Interestingly he was declared an 'enemy of the people' on a semi-pinko Yahoo Group, about one year ago. So he must be REALLY, REALLY OK! -- George

+2 # Guest 2010-08-02 21:26

This George sounds like he knows what he's talking about.

BULLYism is an unfortunate social psychology that can rear its ugly head in ANY society- "left", "right", old, new.
Just like alcoholism & drug abuse can afflict ANY kind of person, regardless of color, creed, gender, income, intelligence, education, etc.

Any society that allows the bullies to be (as to their public society) like a camel with its nose under the tent, needs to go through the equivalent of the alcoholics' 12-step program.

Just do it.

+7 # Guest 2010-08-02 08:20

Zinn did put a Marxist interpretation on American history. This was his great gift to America; instead of the scrubbed version we always got in the schools, we got the rest of the story from Dr. Zinn. Was he a "Communist?" If so, one has to ask whether he was in touch with a foreign power before the FBI should have been called in. Marxist ideology itself is not un- or even anti-American, except in the eyes of the people it damages, who themselves could be accused of exactly the same. Minorities, the poor, women, dissidents,labo rers,the oppressed: all got the place in Dr. Zinn's book which they were denied in all of the other books. A very valuable historian, especially of the USA.

0 # Guest 2010-08-02 21:30

Q. What he a communist?
A. "Communists" (and there are apparently still some around) are about BULLETS; not BALLOTS.

+4 # Guest 2010-08-02 08:47

One wonders: what did it cost taxpayers of any stripe to pay the hours of the FBI investigator/gatherers to produce a 400-page file?

+2 # Guest 2010-08-02 21:34

Maybe about the same as a couple of bombs earmarked for 'Iraqi' women & children.

+5 # Guest 2010-08-02 10:07

US looks more like another evil empire (gone now) - totalitarian state.
This is legacy of Reagan era. Now we have thousands of us "KGBs" writing dosages on hundred thousands of Americans in "war on terror". We have patriot act that totally destroyed what was left of the constitution.
It looks that this 400 pages document is from the good old days.

+9 # Guest 2010-08-02 10:41

Never trust the FBI in any administration. They tapped my phone in the summer of 1968. I had just been distributing campaign literature in my neighborhood for Wisconsin Democrat Eugene McCarthy for President. He was against the war. Never knew until I received notices that I was a member of the plaintiff class. The FBI radicalized me.

+6 # Guest 2010-08-02 12:09

Howard Zinn was one of the great figures of our time. It is only fitting that the government kept a file on him. The major enemy of any government is the citizens themselves and, unlike most intellectuals, Howard stood with the citizens against the government.

+5 # Guest 2010-08-02 16:24

Compared to Howard Zinn 90% of Americans are indentured souls tolerating every kind of abuse their decrepit political system and corporate slave masters subject them to.

+1 # Guest 2010-08-02 21:46

You've spoken like a man from what seems like a truly civilized country.

+4 # Guest 2010-08-02 16:26

It would be an honor to have an FBI file on myself and thus be in the same company as Howard Zinn. If not buying the lies and demanding the truth is a qualifying condition for induction into this club it is my aspiration to become a member and I am doing my best to qualify for inclusion. I think every patriot who loves his country should do the same. A country that will not take ownership of it's own truth, is of course an institutionaliz ed lie worthy of destruction. It is possible to love this country - NOT because of, but in spite of it's institutionaliz ed lies and it is because of people like Howard Zinn that we find in our nation reasons to love it in spite of itself. He is one of the finest Americans I have ever had the privilege to have met.

+2 # Guest 2010-08-02 16:56

Tony Hillerman was right. His Navajo policeman characters said: "The FBI can't find their asses with both hands."

+1 # Guest 2010-08-02 21:40

...good at making us cynical and angry, though, aren't they?

+4 # Guest 2010-08-02 21:07

Zinn was... Zinn wasn't. He was an advocate for a more equal and just version of the United States and the world. He was tireless in his activism and brought a broader vision of history to a large number of people. He wasn't a "neutral" academic historian. He was telling the stories of those too often left out to a broad audience. The FBI keeps files--the utility of this activity is at best an illusion; its destructive potential (and at times reality) manifest. They do it because the organizational culture is dominated by a petrified world view that does not comprehend patriotic opposition to imperfect laws and unjust realities. It does it because of endemic racism. It does it because of the careerism of its agents. It does it out of fear--and because it's much easier to "investigate" published authors and public speakers, than those actually plotting violence and insurrection on the one hand, or the wholesale pilfering of the public purse on the other.

+4 # Guest 2010-08-02 21:34

I had the pleasure of driving Howard around for speaking events in my city a couple of decades ago. We spent time floating in the Pacific Ocean discussing (and disagreeing slightly) on the history of the New Left. I enjoyed his company and felt honored to help him in a small way.

I have just spent three hours skimming through the 400 pages. Much of it is repetitive. People who believe this is the sum total of FBI surveillance of Howard will, I believe, be misled. Haward was too important, and too busy, and the FBI was much more paranoid than the scanty materials here would suggest.

Looking at the 1974 set of documents, there is a list of the records, most of which appear to have been destroyed rather than released. The 19974 destruction of the files probably represents an attempt to protect the FBI against potentially embarrassing exposures in the immediate post-Watergate period.

+3 # Guest 2010-08-03 12:22

It would be much more enlightening to see the W, Cheney, Rice, Rummy ; et al files/tomes released to a legit prosecutor.
Wake me up for that occasion for real! George Stuart

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