Both wars were based on lies. Eight years, a million lives and how many billion dollars wasted on lies. But still we continue. Tragedies like this are inevitable in stupid wars. Stop the wars!

If you actually watch the video, instead of relying on the unsubstantiated claims of others, you will see that the folks in the video *are* armed (you can clearly see they are armed), and that anotehr unit had been taking small arms fire from that position earlier. Also, if you watch the video, you can clearly see someone with an RPG taking aim at the helicopter just before it orbits around the building.

The Warren Commission, by filthy lying about who was behind President Kennedy's public execution by the CIA and Mafia, did the same thing that the US Military is attempting to do now: LIE. If this incident doesn't arouse moral people everywhere in America, then she (America) is indeed lost. Lost her way.

President Obama must be told by Americans, in no uncertain terms that either he ends the Iraq war, leaves Iraq to itself, or he will, along with the Democratic majority in Congress, lose it all come November 2010, and Nov. 2012. The GOP, which started this horrible mess, will be brought back to power to do more of the same.

The war is Obama's now!!

This is the SHOCK AND AW tactic's the US uses. That is why the Iraq people do not want us in Iraq over there killing there children and civilians or like the US, we will never win this police action. Even Bush said that when he was in office this is an unwinable police action.

Ed, you want to believe and see what you want to believe and see. In supporting the murders of these people, you & other Americans like you, who support illegal wars of aggression for U.S. world empire and for control of foreign energy resources, are as guilty of the murder & the killing of well over 1500 thousand innocent Iraqi men, women, & children. You forget that we are in their country, a country that is well over 10000 miles away from the U.S., a country that was no threat to us & had absolutely nothing to do with 911. Today, on Democracy Now, a Julian Assange, the co-founder of Wikileaks, was interviewed & stated that your so-called small-arms fire from that particular area where they murdered all of these people was an outright lie by the military, that there was sounds of small arms fire without any positive ID from some area of the district around there, which could have been miles away from that area. Stop supporting lies and murder for world empire.

The US sheeple continue in their "see nothing, know nothing, do nothing" mode. As long as Americans can bar-b-que and stick a flag in their yards, what the hell should they care what happens in the Middle East? The dumb jackasses in this country are as much to blame for Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rice/Rove lies for going to a worthless, illegal, immoral, and criminal war as the war monger leaders of this murderous country. Patriotism, my arse! Think about this: the USA has destroyed the culture, infrastructure, and people of the Middle East. How proud some of you must be to be an American at this time! Remember...it's all about "spreading freedom and democracy", right? Keep up the fine work, SHEEPLE!!!

Your tax dollars at work in the hands of trigger happy "boys next door."

"Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels!" I wrote a book on Vietnam called "Pride and Greed" still on Amazon. But I am firmly convinced that the public would rather not know!

Jeff Poley, Julian Assange, the co-founder of Wikileaks, had indicated on Democracy Now that the original video of what went on was infinitely more clearer than what they submitted for public consumption. The original video was leaked to them and they had to use several filtering techniques to decrypt the film to make it viewable. The people manning the helicopters should have had no problems telling the difference between a camera and a weapon.

To anyone that is interested in downloading videos like the Wikileaks video of the shooting, I would suggest that you visit the realplayer website indicated below:

http://www.real.com/realplayer/free-media-player

When installed, it will easily allow you to download any video that is downloadable. For example, once realplayer has been installed, if you were to play the Wikileaks video, if you move the cursor towards the upper-right corner of the video, you should see a small window open up which would state "Download Video." When you click on it, realplayer will begin downloading the video onto your computer at the following location: "Users\'your name'\videos\RealPla yer Downloads" as a .flv file.

An excellent media player with great fuctionality is Media Player Classic. Download at the following address:

http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/

You can pause the video by simply clicking on the screen, and start it again by clicking the screen.

Are we raising a generation of monsters? Is profit more important than life? Anyone who sees these videos will be appalled, or they are ignorant deniers. Will we ever become civilized? I don't think so. Weep for the children. Weep for the human race. We may be already lost.

The individual who went through these postings and negated a point from each of those postings which condemned the act shown in the film should have the courage of their own convictions and submit a posting themselves. Whoever did this was coward. If you feel that the wanton murder of innocent people, especially children, is perfectly fine in a country that did no harm to us and was no threat to us, then you would have made a good Nazi during Hitler's regime. If you have something to say, then speak out, but don't hide in the shadows and condemn the people who did have the courage of their own convictions to post something here. You even gave me a negative one when I was simply trying to point people to an easy way of downloading videos and viewing them, which had nothing whatsoever to do with the Wikileaks film.

Im horrified... you should never fire without proper intelligence and PROOF! CONVINCING PROOF by your eyes!!! that every single individual with a weapon is a threat! They were children! people helping the wounded.. These people are monsters!!! Murders!! Savage Murders!.. The americans have the worst reputation for friendly fire EVER in the world! obsessed with killing.. (i dont speak for all but a vast 90% of american military).. its truly a Disgrace and embarrassment to there country. There as careless with weapons in there own streets never mind other countrys. Maybe they should stay at home cos frankly.. the world is sick of the americans careless stupidity! i mean.. they cant even control there own soldiers.. never mind care for other countrys they invade.

America... what reputation have u carved out for ureselves.. Your politicians make out its logical and just, policing the world as you do. Ure intentions sound noble.. to stop terrorism u must commit abroad and i understand that. But the way u force youreself upon the world and do what you want how u please with literally what is obviously complete carelessness stupidity.. that tarnishes such a gloriously barley loved nation.. Keep going this way america.. and the whole world will have no respect..no remorse and not a dam care in the world about ure country or your people.. thanks to your politicians ure literally unwelcome in the middle east and hardly liked in europe. Its a dam dam shame.. Our heroes from ww2 ure rep is all tarnished. Its v sad...

While the event is regrettable, I feel the context is misleading when you watch the "Short Version" vs the "Full Version". We don't know the events of the day, what was going on, who the reporters were with? We are lead down a path with the help of opinionated editorial designed to strike a nerve within us.
It is shocking to us but we are not in the war fighting business so it should be. We get to examine the video after the fact, not very fair when you think about it.
I don't support the war but our leaders are forcing our military to fight it. The fact is it is easy for us to sit at home and second guess the decisions that were made but if we were in a war zone our conclusions would be much different.
War is brutal and as a democracy we should have never allowed our leaders to take us down this road.

DavidNYC, if you watched the film, there was a definite time delay between when you heard the initial machine gun fire go off and when the shots actually hit the ground. At 800 to 1000 feet per second, the helicopters were no where close to the people on the ground. The cameras sights on the machine guns on the helicopters, from what I heard stated, had tremendous zoom lens capability. And, if you are right, and they actually saw the helicopters (in the distance) hovering and moving around them as the helicopters appeared to be doing, and always with the same side of the helicopter facing them, probably with an open door and a gun sticking out, and knowing how dangerous things were in Iraq at the time, I would have immediately taken cover and I would have strongly suggested that everyone else do the same. People may still have died in the illegal attack, but some may have survived.

This type of war is sad we dont know who the enemy is or what they are wearing they dress in civilian clothing.

But you know they were holding weapons unknown what that guy was filiming but he wasnt running. In America we you dont see normal people walking around with an AK 47 and another with an RPG.

About the people in the van, this War has unmarked people Americans dont know who the enemy is.

BTW my spelling stinks I know.

This is a war, do you expect our military to not pursue their enemy? Ours is a volunteer military comprised of young men and women who have placed their principles and beliefs ahead of their own personal safety and well being. It is unfortunate that politicians have put us there. War is a very hellish endeavor, people die, innocents die, it is not pretty, in fact it sucks, there is a real loss of a sense of what is right and wrong. Look at the history of war you will not find a war that was fought with such deference to the civilian populations London, Dresden, and Tokyo during WWII were indiscrimintly bombed killing civilians, We burned Japanese cities to the ground before we dropped the A bombs. If you want the US out of these wars then get involved and work to build the political will to get us out, do something more productive than just talking crap about those who are laying down their lives because they believe in something larger than themselves. What have you given to anything?

Geff, you remind me of those military recruitment ads I see on TV paid for with my tax dollars, ads that do nothing but express clichés like, "I want to make a difference," for whatever that means, trying to persuade parents to allow their children to join the military. Are you aware that Germans during WWII under Hitler were good patriotic citizens, just like you? They were good Nazis. Are you also aware of the fact that a wounded man, an innocent civilian, crawled out from that van that was shot up by our brave helicopter gunners from a distance & was subsequently & knowingly, on purpose, run over by a Bradley Tank & cut in half while still alive? But, what does that matter to you? Being an Iraqi, and not being an American, he had very little human value and, therefore, was of no great loss. Isn't that right, Geff? God, where do people like you come from? The only good Iraqi is a dead Iraqi! Is that what you believe? Is that what you believe about Afghans as well?

The "Collateral Murder" is a B.S. statement. These "Journalist" are hanging with Terrorists, you can clearly see one has a RPG launcher, while others have AK's. Get your shit straight, before you condemn someone.

When you hear two words...Middle East, do you think of anything good? An honest question isn't it? Years and years of wars, assassinations of leaders in peace processes, coups, police actions, Palestinians being lead to a shore land without an exit...great place to bring up a family isn't it? They don't want us there...period. So why bother being there, they'll all eventually kill each other anyway and then we can go in and get the last guy standing or better yet make a parking lot of the whole place and put another Disney there...anything beats the hell out of our soldiers being killed for people who don't want help and know nothing but war. Not too mention not many US soldiers strap on belts loaded with explosives and take 200 innocent civilians with them , or hide in schools or mosques to avoid drawing fire. They have no balls, so I say kill em all! Just my opinion, sorry if I'm not a bleeding heart like the rest of you who won't really say what you mean.

bigdaddy, you better get your stuff straight. At the time this event happened, there was civil war waging among the various religious sects which had very little to do with the U.S. occupation. The 2 people in the street were armed in order to protect their neighborhood, not from U.S. forces, but from other religious sects that were killing their people everyday. The 2 journalists were there to get their story, & they were clearly carrying cameras on them, not weapons. If the people were terrorists, they would not have been walking in the street during the daytime so nonchalantly, in such a relaxed manner. The helicopter crew were chomping at the bit to kill Iraqis, any Iraqi. They are murderers. For anyone to run over a live unarmed (but wounded) individual lying in the street & cut him in half while still alive goes beyond barbaric. By the way, I don't consider people who are waging a war against an illegal occupation of their country terrorists.

All the people in the world can give their thanks to the Federal Reserve for this insane act upon mankind. The Reserve does not care about our mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters and children. War generates ridiculous profit for them because war requires the US goverment to borrow more money. We are poisoned by our media. The media is filtered by few men with ties to the Reserve. Money is what is important to these few wealthy men. They dont care about the american people. I served in afghanistan and it shatters my heart to see those innocent babies being carried out from being wounded around all those bodies because of out lack of good intel. I call them babies because they will always be babies to the parents we took from them. I know war can mess with the mind but you cant let this man made evil take control over your judgement as a human being from doing whats right. These countries did ok without the USA for thousands of years. Im certain They will be just fine without us still.The Fed wants to usurp these little countries and have them in their debt.
I salute the flag for all that died. I do not salute for why they died.