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Excerpt: "I've been reporting on Iran and the bomb for The New Yorker for the past decade, with a focus on the repeatedly inability of the best and the brightest of the Joint Special Operations Command to find definitive evidence of a nuclear-weapons production program in Iran."

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, depicted in this cartoon. (art: Fares Garabet)
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, depicted in this cartoon. (art: Fares Garabet)

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+46 # pernsey 2011-11-18 17:24
We are still looking for Cheneys weapons of mass destruction! Dick Cheney is a nightmare! I believe these republican clowns as much now as I did then...NOT AT ALL!!

They just make stuff up and spread it like its the truth. Their corporate cronies just want to keep this country in perpetual war so they can rob the country blind one more time.

GOP stands for Greedy One Percent!!

NEVER EVER VOTE REPUBLICAN!!!
 
 
+34 # Activista 2011-11-18 19:17
"material appears to come from a SINGLE source: a laptop computer, allegedly "supplied to the I.A.E.A. by a Western intelligence agency, whose provenance could not be established"
the same intelligence agency, whose provenance could not be established claims that Iraq tried to purchase 'yellowcake' uranium from Niger ...
Everyone knows that ONLY the "BEST" Institute for Intelligence and Special Operations in the World could come with such smart trick like a single "laptop" full of details and plans re Iranian Nuclear Bomb.
Obama/Clinton lie, people die.
IAEA should act/go where the nuclear bombs (200+) really are - to Israel.
Read more http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2011/11/iran-and-the-iaea.html#ixzz1e7Ho2Swy
 
 
+23 # X Dane 2011-11-18 23:29
The neocons will never give up. They keep beating the war drums. If we had President John McCain we might be at war with Iran now.

Do you remember during the 2008 campaign, McCain stood on a stage and sang BOMB, BOMB, BOMB, BOMB, BOMB IRAN. So irresponsibly. The world was watching.

We will always look like bullies, when people, like a prominent Senator behaves like that.

The right wing will rather have non stop war than trying to improve and rebuild the country.
Never vote republican.
 
 
+16 # Carolyn 2011-11-19 01:29
IAEA should act/go where the nuclear bombs (200+) really are - to Israel.
Activista,
The positivity of this statement clarifies like no other. We're living in the proverbial house of cards, built on the duality of self-serving lies. Even Hillary is working on it. It can't stand. -- "where the bombs really are" -- Israel, the USA --
 
 
+17 # Nel 2011-11-19 02:49
Any Iran/atomic discussion that excludes Israel/atomic, is out of context.
 
 
0 # Todd Williams 2011-11-19 05:24
How has Obama lied on this issue? I would like specific lies to be quoted before I believe that.
 
 
-16 # Todd Williams 2011-11-19 06:35
Activista, again you prove yourself to be an anti-semite. You insult my intellect. And there are no nuclear bombs in any other freaking place on this planet other than in Isreal? How about USA? England? China? Russia? Pakistan? India? And how about Bush/Chenney lie, people die? By the way, your spelling, grammar and punctuation are atrocious. Please try to construct a halfway intelligent statement.
 
 
+19 # ericlipps 2011-11-19 08:47
Quoting
Activista, again you prove yourself to be an anti-semite. You insult my intellect. And there are no nuclear bombs in any other freaking place on this planet other than in Isreal? How about USA? England? China? Russia? Pakistan? India? And how about Bush/Chenney lie, people die? By the way, your spelling, grammar and punctuation are atrocious. Please try to construct a halfway intelligent statement.


The fact that other nations elsewhere in the world have nukes ion no way minimizes the problem that Isael is the only nation in the Middle East known to have them (and the Israeli who cofirmed that they did, Mordechai Vanunu, was kidnapped from Europe and locked away in an Israeli prison for 20 years for doing so).

It isn't anti-Semitic to point out that Israel has the bomb, wants to remain forever the only nation in the region which does and likes to threaten its use if conventional arms prove inadequate to deter the threat of military attack. Israel and the Jewish people are not one and the same.
 
 
-17 # Todd Williams 2011-11-19 12:16
Oh yes it is. I know what's going on there. Why the focus on Israel? Why not focus on Palestian terrorists? You're not atrue liberal if you support Israel? GIVE ME A FRIGGING BREAK! And what about Obama/Clinton lie people die? If that isn't a heavy load of BS! Grow up people and face the facts. Nucs are not going away because we will it so. Let Israel deal with Iran first. They have a pretty good handle on who the bad actors are in the neightborhood. And bring on those negative votes folks, I love 'em!
 
 
+16 # Pufferly 2011-11-19 06:39
Cheney, in my opinion, is the most evil person in the world, given his past access to WMDs and his naked pursuit of global domination. If Iran SHOULD build a nuclear bomb (we've built tens of thousands and are still building) they will be confronted by nations with many more than they have, and face annihilation in 30 minutes--POOF! It's all posturing, but our politicians need to create terror to get any traction. Where is it written we're wise enough to avoid suicide?
 
 
+20 # in deo veritas 2011-11-19 07:15
History has shown us that you cannot trust the Pentagon. The alleged attacks in the Gulf of Tonkin were fabricated to get us into the war, making billions + for the munitions makers. Bush's fabricated WMD lies got us into Iraq. Now the same fascists are attempting to get us to attack Iran. Considering the mindset of a handful of fascist types in TelAviv with their nuclear stockpile it looks like they want armageddon even if it results in their own country being destroyed. Why is it that both Israel and the USA have no ability (if any desire) to prevent this? Are their elections as crooked as ours? Nothing was done by the German people to stop Hitler's headlong rush to destruction before he had total control and time is running out for us. At the speed that fascism is taking root here we may be out of time already seeing how it has already turned NYC and other cities into virtual police states.
 
 
+14 # in deo veritas 2011-11-19 07:20
The most important rule in determining foreign policy is to put national interest above all else. This is NOT being done and has not been done for decades. The middle east policy has only considered what is important to Wall Street in general and the oil companies in particular. The rise or fall of any of those countries including Israel should not be allowed to affect us or determine ourdestiny nor is it our responsibility to determine theirs. That is the last thing they want as we should have learned from the Iraq debacle.
 
 
+15 # in deo veritas 2011-11-19 07:26
"military intelligence" has long been considered an oxymoron: now it is being manipulated by oxymorons-and war criminals in the State Department and Wall Street. A country the size of Israel with its oversized nuclear stockpile is a threat to peace as well as to itself.
 
 
0 # anarchteacher 2011-11-19 07:45
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies." -- Ron Paul

Only Ron Paul, of all the presidential candidates of both major parties, has repeatedly spoken out clearly and forcefully against the belligerent war propaganda and calculated lies in the bipartisan lead up to war with Iran, against the bipartisan campaign for punitive sanctions against Iran, and against further covert operations to destabilize the fragile geopolitical situation in the Mideast. He is not afraid to speak truth to power.

The principled constitutionali st and nonintervention ist Paul was right from the start about our disastrous preemptive imperial wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, right from the start about the destructive 'blowback' fomenting more hatred directed towards America, right from the start about the Federal Reserve's monetary policies creating the housing bubble which led to the 2008 financial meltdown, right from the start about the War on Drugs, the USA Patriot Act and the TSA imposing a fascist police state upon the American people.

Ron Paul 2012.

Right Then.

Right Now.

Right For America.
 
 
+5 # Sallyport 2011-11-19 14:24
Things have come to an awful pass in America when a rabid reactionary like Ron Paul comes closest to speaking good sense among all the the pols & officials with a handy microphone. His peace credentials look good until you realize they are a necessary concomitant of his isolationism. Anyone advocating a flat tax does not have the best interests of the greatest number in mind. He would prohibit women's right to self determination. He's about as right-wing as it's possible to be. I hope the peaceniks he has charmed will wake up to his other qualities.
 
 
+17 # Travlinlight 2011-11-19 08:25
It is a monumental and astounding hypocrisy for anyone to get all puffed up in a sabre-rattling fit about Iran maybe, MAYBE, developing a nuclear bomb. Israel was the first nation in that region to start a nuclear weapons program, and there is a long and documented history of their program and their facility at Dimona. They have been aided and supplied by the French and the British in the construction of nuclear weapsons since the 1950s and 60s. Their nuclear weapons capacity has been growing ever since that period, and Jane's Defence Weekly has recently estimated (see 2010 article) that Israel has at least 100 nuclear bombs and as many as 300.

Israel could incinerate Iran in a matter of minutes, if it chose to. It's long past time to get real and get honest about what's really going on. All of this crap about Iran is just one more part of the great game strategy for capture and control of petro resources in the middle-East. To get a full understanding of that strategy, one need only read Noam Chomsk'y discussion of the Kennan doctrine (PPS 23, 1948). QED.

One last comment: Intrepid investigative reporter, Gareth Porter, has revealed that the so-called intelligence on Iran's nuclear weapons development is fake. Read his article on the issue at Antiwar.com. Deja vu all over again, a la Colin Powell's b.s. presentation at the UN.
 
 
+8 # Activista 2011-11-19 08:51
" intelligence on Iran's nuclear weapons development is fake"
it is - as Mr. Hersh above is saying - and implying - all this stuff comes from ONE laptop "material appears to come from a SINGLE source: a laptop computer, allegedly "supplied to the I.A.E.A. by a Western intelligence agency, whose provenance could not be established"
....
Obama/Clinton is playing the war game to get re-elected.
 
 
+9 # wfalco 2011-11-19 08:50
Cheney and his ilk are in a habitual state of salivation over any prospect that Iran might be attempting to create a nuclear weapon. Any verification of such a program would be a Cheney's wet dream rather than a "nightmare."

I am perhaps a bit naive or simplistic in my foreign policy views...but SO WHAT if Iran is developing such a program?
It seems they have a right to defend themselves against the possibility of Israeli or American "intervention." It seems to me a nuclear program by them is a sane thing to do. Wasn't it Hussein's intention to not deny that Iraq might have WMD'S as a defense tactic? But an Iraq or Iran is, ultimately, in a lose/lose situation since even a fabrication of alleged nuclear program is all that is needed for us to let the bombs fall.
 
 
+13 # Holyone 2011-11-19 08:58
This sounds like Israeli hype because they don't like someone saying they should not exist. What kind of reason is that to go around killing people and having Americans , not Israelis, killed and then have America also pay the coat of a "bully" war.

Maybe this "Chosen" thing has gone more than a bit too far.

Israel should be treated like the other 99% of us. Oh, yes. We need to stop giving Israel our tax dollars to "protect" our interests in the Middle East.

The Middle East, from whom we are being protected, seems to be seeking more democratic and peaceful nations than short fused Israel.

As Jimmy Carter and others have had the courage to say that (Israel not only supported and fostered Apartheid in South Africa) Israel has established Apartheid in Israel.It is also documented that Israel has subjugated to menial stautus, Ethopian Jews as well as the Israelis Jews that were in Israel before the arrival of Jews from the Diaspora.
 
 
+4 # Activista 2011-11-19 21:41
" Jimmy Carter and others have had the courage to say"
wonder why both Clinton and Obama censor Carter - last moral president that was able to secure fair deal - peace.
 
 
+9 # jwb110 2011-11-19 09:21
Iran and the WMD/Axis of Evil is the ultimate bate and switch.

Why would they bother to develop what they could buy from some American Company that is subsidized by American taxpayers? The Arab world has been framed as a bunch of radicals who behave unreasonably. They have been framed that way by a bunch of US neocon-radicals who behave unreasonably.
The inmates are running the asylum!
 
 
-12 # bobby t. 2011-11-19 09:27
for responsible countries, like America and Israel, nukes are "second strike" weapons. the nukes on our subs are just that, a warning that if you attack, mutual destruction is assured. MAD is the term they use. Russia knew that and so does China, North Korea, and Iran. If Iran really had the bomb, would they give it to terrorists? Logically, the CIA would connect the dots soon enough, and radio our sub fleet to wipe Iran off the face of the Earth. With so many countries, like India and Pakistan who hate each other, with nukes, how come they haven't used them? MAD....That is the only reason. Israel has a right to defend itself. Woody Allen said it best, " Jews have a right to be paranoid, because the whole world is trying to kill us."
 
 
+11 # Activista 2011-11-19 11:08
Iran has a right to defend itself. " Iranians have a right to be paranoid, because the whole world is trying to kill us."
Check Israeli Apartheid wars, bombing, invasions - then name ONE war that Iran started. And do not forget Reagan support for Sadam when attacking Iran - US AWACS from Saudi Arabia were picking Iranian bombing targets. One million people died.
Check the players in Iran Contra affair ..
 
 
-13 # Todd Williams 2011-11-19 12:30
Right on Bobby T! Nice to see a voice of sanity amoung all the anti-Israel types and anti semites) on this thread. You are totally right in your assessment.
 
 
+10 # grannym 2011-11-19 12:48
But Israel does NOT have the right to imprison and ghettoize and kill other people, steal THEIR homeland and terrorize THEIR lives. And Israel does NOT have the right to attack Iran and then run to the protecting arms of the US. If Israel wants to keep getting the billions the US gives her, she should start acting appropriately. Before cutting aids to the neediest of Americans, this country should begin holding its welfare to Israel hostage to decent behavior. "Never agin"? Right - not even against Palestinians.
 
 
+5 # Glen 2011-11-20 06:08
Israel and the U.S. use "nukes" all the time. Maybe not a major mushroom cloud generating nuke, but depleted uranium materials that are responsible for sickening and killing thousands in the Middle East and Balkans, and possibly elsewhere. The U.S. is the only country to have used major nuclear weapons. And let's not forget numerous illegal weapons such as phosphorus.

Certainly, bobby t, the guarantee of destruction has kept countries from using their hefty nukes, which would include Iran, should they decide on a weapon. If Israel is under attack, they have done a good job of inspiring the inclination to punish them, not because they are Jews, but because of their government's policies.
 
 
+10 # medusa 2011-11-19 10:55
The strange liars who started the failed strategies of George W Bush are no doubt the authors of these invitations to wage war on Iran. Obama doesn't seem able to silence them but that doesn't mean he belongs to them--only that their sinister power reaches farther than we have hoped. We, who used to be "comsymps" etc. etc. when we thought the Vietnam war was a bad idea, to say nothing of Iraq, an unhappy country of sand and date palms that has been burning under our bombs for years. Heaven help us.
 
 
+4 # Todd Williams 2011-11-19 12:31
You nailed it medusa!
 
 
-9 # bobby t. 2011-11-19 14:11
thanks todd. and by the way, india and pakistan have almost blown each other up. they forget, like children, what the consequences of their impulsive ideas can bring to bear. we have sent our state dept. along with generals to each of those countries with pictures and predicted outcomes for those kind of actions. after looking at what could happen, sane decisions were made. religion makes people do weird stuff. scary stuff. we are all lucky to be alive to write on this website. and thanks again. mind you, Israel would settle their problems in a minute if they felt safe. they have always traded land for peace. and will in the future.
 
 
+4 # Ken Hall 2011-11-19 21:15
What about all those "facts on the ground"? Doesn't sound like a way to keep bargaining chips in play.
 
 
+6 # Glen 2011-11-20 06:12
Israel will never settle their "problems", bobby t. Israel creates their problems and they benefit as much from their military actions as the U.S.

There actually is an anti-war group of Israeli citizens, who also attempt to protect Palestinians from the Israeli military's brutality.
 

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