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Intro: "Britain has rebuffed US pleas to use military bases in the UK to support the build-up of forces in the Gulf, citing secret legal advice which states that any pre-emptive strike on Iran could be in breach of international law."

US diplomats are said to have also lobbied for permission to use US bases on British territory such as Diego Garcia. (photo: AFP)
US diplomats are said to have also lobbied for permission to use US bases on British territory such as Diego Garcia. (photo: AFP)


Britain Rejects US Request to Use UK Bases in Nuclear Standoff With Iran

By Nick Hopkins, Guardian UK

25 October 12

 

Secret legal advice states pre-emptive strike could be in breach of international law as Iran not yet 'clear and present threat'

ritain has rebuffed US pleas to use military bases in the UK to support the build-up of forces in the Gulf, citing secret legal advice which states that any pre-emptive strike on Iran could be in breach of international law.

The Guardian has been told that US diplomats have also lobbied for the use of British bases in Cyprus, and for permission to fly from US bases on Ascension Island in the Atlantic and Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean, both of which are British territories.

The US approaches are part of contingency planning over the nuclear standoff with Tehran, but British ministers have so far reacted coolly. They have pointed US officials to legal advice drafted by the attorney general's office which has been circulated to Downing Street, the Foreign Office and the Ministry of Defence.

This makes clear that Iran, which has consistently denied it has plans to develop a nuclear weapon, does not currently represent "a clear and present threat". Providing assistance to forces that could be involved in a pre-emptive strike would be a clear breach of international law, it states.

"The UK would be in breach of international law if it facilitated what amounted to a pre-emptive strike on Iran," said a senior Whitehall source. "It is explicit. The government has been using this to push back against the Americans."

Sources said the US had yet to make a formal request to the British government, and that they did not believe an acceleration towards conflict was imminent or more likely. The discussions so far had been to scope out the British position, they said.

"But I think the US has been surprised that ministers have been reluctant to provide assurances about this kind of upfront assistance," said one source. "They'd expect resistance from senior Liberal Democrats, but it's Tories as well. That has come as a bit of a surprise."

The situation reflects the lack of appetite within Whitehall for the UK to be drawn into any conflict, though the Royal Navy has a large presence in the Gulf in case the ongoing diplomatic efforts fail.

The navy has up to 10 ships in the region, including a nuclear-powered submarine. Its counter-mine vessels are on permanent rotation to help ensure that the strategically important shipping lanes through the Strait of Hormuz remain open.

The Guardian has been told that a British military delegation with a strong navy contingent flew to US Central Command headquarters in Tampa, Florida, earlier this summer to run through a range of contingency plans with US planners.

The UK, however, has assumed that it would only become involved once a conflict had already begun, and has been reluctant to commit overt support to Washington in the buildup to any military action.

"It is quite likely that if the Israelis decided to attack Iran, or the Americans felt they had to do it for the Israelis or in support of them, the UK would not be told beforehand," said the source. "In some respects, the UK government would prefer it that way."

British and US diplomats insisted that the two countries regarded a diplomatic solution as the priority. But this depends on the White House being able to restrain Israel, which is nervous that Iran's underground uranium enrichment plant will soon make its nuclear programme immune to any outside attempts to stop it.

Israel has a less developed strike capability and its window for action against Iran will close much more quickly than that of the US, explained another official. "The key to holding back Israel is Israeli confidence that the US will deal with Iran when the moment is right."

With diplomatic efforts stalled by the US presidential election campaign, a new push to resolve the crisis will begin in late November or December.

Six global powers will spearhead a drive which is likely to involve an offer to lift some of the sanctions that have crippled Iran's economy in return for Tehran limiting its stockpile of enriched uranium.

The countries involved are the US, the UK, France, Germany, Russia and China. Iran will be represented by its chief negotiator, Saeed Jalili.

A Foreign Office spokesman said: "As we continue to make clear, the government does not believe military action against Iran is the right course of action at this time, although no option is off the table. We believe that the twin-track approach of pressure through sanctions, which are having an impact, and engagement with Iran is the best way to resolve the nuclear issue. We are not going to speculate about scenarios in which military action would be legal. That would depend on the circumstances at the time."

The Foreign Office said it would not disclose whether the attorney general's advice has been sought on any specific issue.

A US state department official said: "The US and the UK co-ordinate on all kinds of subjects all the time, on a huge range of issues. We never speak on the record about these types of conversations."

The Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, warned at the UN general assembly last month that Iran's nuclear programme would reach Israel's "red line" by "next spring, at most by next summer", implying that Israel might then take military action in an attempt to destroy nuclear sites and set back the programme.

That red line, which Netanyahu illustrated at the UN with a marker pen on a picture of a bomb, is defined by Iranian progress in making uranium enriched to 20%, which would be much easier than uranium enriched to 5% to turn into weapons-grade material, should Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, take the strategic decision to abandon Iran's observance of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and try to make a weapon. Tehran insists it has no such intention.

In August, the most senior US military officer, General Martin Dempsey, distanced himself from any Israeli plan to bomb Iran. He said such an attack would "clearly delay but probably not destroy Iran's nuclear programme".

He added: "I don't want to be complicit if they [Israel] choose to do it."

See Also: Britain Is in No Rush to Tangle with Iran

 

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+16 # Dion Giles 2012-10-26 06:46
I'd never dreamed that a Tory government would show more principle than a Labour government, but the contrast of this stand with the criminal complicity of Tony Bliar over Iraq is startling. Maybe the isolation of racist Israel is more advanced than it looked.
 
 
+5 # NOMINAE 2012-10-26 22:43
@ Dion Giles

Well said. I think that it is quite likely that it is *because of* the obsequious Tony Blair - bouncing lap-dog to "W"- that the UK Tories are taking this present position.

I can't imagine anything more abhorrent to a British Tory gov't than a leader like the fawning little Tony Blair.

The Brits are keenly aware of "keeping up appearances", especially upon the World Stage, and the Blair gov't left them with "egg on their faces" that will take generations to fully sop up.

This present position on the part of the British is akin to our own, and even our U.S. Republican Party's extreme efforts to pretend that the whole 8-year Bush Chaney "thing" never happened to begin with.

The Brits are forced to be the "Un-Tony Blair" right into the foreseeable future.
 
 
+9 # MidwestTom 2012-10-26 06:49
Hats off to the British. Both candidates apparently want us to go to war, art least we know Obama does; yet over 70% of the American people are opposed. We should demand that every Congressman and woman must have their children in the invading troops. The other choice is to demand that we forbid anyone holding dual citizenship from a top government position.
 
 
+5 # herbmia 2012-10-26 08:39
Could there be concern by the British, not to create a backlash by the growing large Muslim population in the UK? I feel that the British are now afraid of the possible violent reaction that might occur, if the U.S. was allowed to use their bases to attack Iran.
 
 
+5 # Majikman 2012-10-26 09:55
Whatever it takes.
 
 
+5 # Antemedius 2012-10-26 08:50
This by the way is the Obama administration that Britain has just kicked in the teeth publicly over it determination to expand its sanctions attack on the Iranian population into a full fledged hot war.

This is not a Romney administration doing this, which admittedly would be far worse than Obama attacking Iran, because if Romney is elected Obama supporters will then have to spend years pretending to be opposed all over again to Obama's right wing/neocon Full Spectrum Confrontation World.
 
 
+6 # angelfish 2012-10-26 09:10
Bravo, Great Britain! WHY should they put themselves at GREAT risk of War by the War-Mongers in the U.S.? Good for them! Beware and be warned, dear folks, the Romneyites will have us in a War before Inauguration Day! Never, EVER vote ReTHUGlican!
 
 
+4 # Antemedius 2012-10-26 09:44
Especially when they grin and call themselves democrats....
 
 
+3 # MidwestTom 2012-10-26 10:58
OBama us the one requesting war preparation.
 
 
+9 # Kootenay Coyote 2012-10-26 10:42
Moments of lucidity among the general madness.
 
 
0 # brux 2012-10-27 10:28
momentary lucidity as you define it will result in a thousand years of Islamic misery.

i'll just bet you are over there commenting on all this republican rape talk, but if you want to show solidarity with women you are crazy to come here and talk about appeasement of islamic radicals in great britain.

it is so very understandable why liberals and the left never get anywhere, they are herded and stampeded like blind elephants into supporting policies they do not understand.

the reason conservatives exist is that a some levels they have a actual value. that value right now is that they get the threat from radical islam and have the guts to stand up against it.

prepare to put on your burka if this attitude starts to win out in america.
 
 
-2 # brux 2012-10-27 10:36
> Tehran insists it has no such intention. [to develop nuclear weapons]

Sure, I believe that, I'll just trust Ahmadinejad, he has such a trustworthy face and record. ;-)

But there is that nagging doubt that he keeps talking about destroying the west, keeps oppressing and killing his own people, like they do in another islamic state, syria. he keeps piling concrete on top of his existing nuclear facilities to harden them militarily.

sure seems like a sign they expect to be bombed, which means they expect to go against the demands of the west and develop nuclear weapons?

and for what? if they do not want to be invaded all they need to do is stop developing nuclear weapons and let the rest of the world inspect their facilities to ensure the peace and safety of the world.

why would iran not want to do that? a rational answer would be that they intend to develop nuclear weapons, and another rational answer would be that they intend to use them, otherwise why go through all the trouble ...

just to show how macho they are??

i sort of doubt it. they want to give the muslim world back their balls and take the leadership role? they put their country at risk and the rest of the world economy so they can strut their nuclear stuff?

you folks really amaze me.
 
 
+1 # RMDC 2012-10-28 05:36
brux -- you are an idiot. That is why we keep amazing you. YOu live in a fantasy land. Achmadinejad has never said any thing about "destroying the west." Iran has problems like all nations on earth. Sometimes the government does unjustly prosecute people. So does the US and all other nations. But Iran is progressing and working hard to make the lives of its people better. THat is why the US wants to destroy it. It is the threat of the bad example -- a Muslim state that actually is a successful democracy and has great relations with other nations.

The US and Israel are only isolating themselves by their constant threats of war against Iran. The real economy of the world is centered in the BRICS nations, Brazil, Russia, INdia, Chian, South Africa. Iran belongs to this group and they produce the majority of the world's GDP. Most of the wealth created in the west is just gambling profits in the banking sector, not real production.

Iran's currency is falling against the dollar because the US won't trade with Iran or accept its currency. But it is fine with the BRICS nations. These nations are working on a new world reserve currency for non-US and non-European nations. When this happens the west will sink into its own shithole. That is how the west will be destroyed. Maybe that is what you were thinking.
 
 
0 # NOMINAE 2012-10-28 11:19
@ RMDC

Childish name-calling, like a second-grader in a sandbox, is no substitute for adult discussion of the issues at hand.

Shouting down any an all with whom you disagree is prima facie evidence that you have little confidence in the strength of your own argument.

No one is convinced to change an opinion by means of cyber intimidation.

Let's belay the name-calling and bring the tone of the discussion up a notch.
 
 
0 # Glen 2012-10-30 05:15
It might help to read the entire post of RMDC. He/she is as fed up with the propaganda against Iran as the rest of us, not to mention all Muslims. The U.S. government has sufficiently poisoned the minds of Americans that some of those citizens will support any crime against sovereign nations.
 
 
-2 # brux 2012-10-27 10:24
Sad, the British must think they are impressing and showing solidarity with Muslims ... who will eventually take over their pathetic little island and add it to the portfolio of miserable and failed Islamic portfolio states. How shameful.
 

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