Intro: "Israel is pressing Barack Obama for an explicit threat of military action against Iran if sanctions fail and Tehran's nuclear programme advances beyond specified 'red lines.'"
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House with US President Barack Obama, 05/20/11. (photo: Jim Young)
Netanyahu Demands Obama Commit to Military Action If Iran Sanctions Fail
02 March 12
srael is pressing Barack Obama for an explicit threat of military action against Iran if sanctions fail and Tehran's nuclear programme advances beyond specified "red lines".
Binyamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, is expected to raise the issue at a White House meeting on Monday after weeks of intense diplomacy in which Obama has dispatched senior officials – including his intelligence, national security and military chiefs – to Jerusalem to try and dampen down talk of an attack.
Diplomats say that Israel is angered by the Obama administration's public disparaging of early military action against Iran, saying that it weakens the prospect of Tehran taking the warnings from Israel seriously.
The two sides are attempting to agree a joint public statement to paper over the divide but talks will not be made easier by a deepening distrust in which the Israelis question Obama's commitment to confront Iran while the White House is frustrated by what it sees as political interference by Netanyahu to mobilise support for Israel's position in the US Congress.
"They are poles apart," said one diplomatic source. "The White House believes there is time for sanctions to work and that military threats don't help. The Israelis regard this as woolly thinking.
They see Iran as headed towards a bomb, even though they agree there is no evidence Tehran has made that decision yet, and they want the White House to up the ante. The White House has the Europeans behind its position but it's losing Congress."
The mood is not helped by worsening distrust between the two leaders. Relations soured within weeks of Obama coming to power after he attempted to pressure Netanyahu to halt construction of Jewish settlements in the Palestinian territories.
Netanyahu told his weekly cabinet meeting on Sunday that Iran will dominate his talks with Obama.
"There is no doubt that one issue will be at the centre of our talks, and that is, of course, the continued strengthening of Iran and its nuclear programme," he said.
Israeli officials say that Netanyahu is not happy with Obama's "vague assertion" that all options are on the table in dealing with Iran. The Israeli prime minister wants Obama to state unequivocally that Washington is prepared to use force if Iran's nuclear programme advances beyond specified red lines.
US administration sources say that Obama is unlikely to make a major shift in policy in public although he may give Netanyahu firmer assurances in private.
White House spokesman Jay Carney said the administration is intent on preventing Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon but that for now it is committed to using sanctions and diplomacy.
"We believe that there is time and space to continue to pursue that approach," he said. "Even as we refuse and make clear that we do not take any option off the table in our effort to prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon," he said.
But last month the Guardian revealed that some American officials are convinced that sanctions will not deter Tehran from pursuing its nuclear programme, and believe that the US will be left with no option but to launch an attack on Iran or watch Israel do so.
One of the principal differences is over timing. The US continues to say it believes Iran has not yet decided whether or not to develop a nuclear bomb, and that even if it does it is perhaps years away from being able to do so.
Israel's defence minister, Ehud Barak, was in Washington this week for meetings with vice-president Joe Biden and US defence secretary Leon Panetta, among others, at which he pressed his view that a direct decision by Tehran to develop a nuclear weapon is not the immediate issue so long as it continues to build the means to do so, and that the matter is urgent.
The chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff, General Martin Dempsey, told Congress this week that during a recent visit to Jerusalem the principal difference was over the question of how long to give sanctions and diplomacy an opportunity to work. "We've had a conversation with them about time, the issue of time," he said.
Dempsey was one of several senior US officials to travel to Israel in recent weeks, including Obama's national security adviser, Tom Donilon, and the director of national intelligence, James Clapper.
Dempsey infuriated Netanyahu with comments that it is "premature" to launch an attack and that an Israeli assault on Iran would be imprudent and destabilising, and not achieve Israel's objectives. He also said that Iran is a "rational" player and should be treated as such.
Netanyahu met a group of US senators last week, including John McCain, and complained strongly about Obama administration officials publicly opposing an Israeli strike on Iran.
After the meeting, McCain criticised the White House position. "There should be no daylight between America and Israel in our assessment of the [Iranian] threat. Unfortunately there clearly is some," he said.
McCain described relations between the US and Israel as in "very bad shape right now" saying that differences over Iran have caused "significant tension". He appeared to side with the Israeli position in noting that "there is very little doubt that Iran has so far been undeterred to get nuclear weapons".
The Republican chair of the House of Representatives intelligence committee, Mike Rogers, said on Monday after meeting Israeli officials that there is a wide difference of opinion between Israel and the White House.
"I got the sense that Israel is incredibly serious about a strike on [Iran's] nuclear weapons programme. It's their calculus that the [US] administration … is not serious about a real military consequence to Iran moving forward," he said. "They believe they're going to have to make a decision on their own, given the current posture of the United States."
Last week, 12 senators sent the president a letter warning that he should not allow Tehran to buy time by engaging in fruitless diplomatic negotiations, expected to begin in the coming weeks. They demanded that Obama insist Iran halt its uranium enrichment programme before talks begin.
More than half the members of the Senate have backed a resolution that some see as pressing for an attack in declaring that the White House should not pursue a policy of "containment".
Senator Joe Lieberman, one of the sponsors of the resolution, said it is intended "to say clearly and resolutely to Iran: You have only two choices – peacefully negotiate to end your nuclear program or expect a military strike to end that programme."
Critics of the resolution said that it smacks of a congressional authorisation for an attack on Iran. That view was reinforced when the sponsors declined a request from some Democrats to amend it to clarify that the resolution did not imply consent for war.
Israeli officials told the Associated Press this week that Israel will not notify the US before an attack on Iran. US officials scoff at the idea that Washington would not know an assault is coming, and the Israeli position may be intended to allow the White House to deny any responsibility.
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We are at war with Iran at this moment - sanctions (trying to starve them like the US did to Iraq where 500,000 children died - which was considered acceptable by the government), covert attacks, drone spying, freezing and confiscating bank accounts, surrounding Iran with 45 military bases, massive naval fleets, and Israel demanding their heads.
The Zionists/dual Israeli nationals and their allies within banking, MIC, and government are going to destroy the US. This not an accident. NDAA gives the government the so-called "legality" to wrap up any resistance to the Zionist takeover and destruction of what is left of the US.
"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
American / Isreali Dual Citizens Running the American Government
Attorney General – Michael Mukasey
Head of Homeland Security – Michael Chertoff
Chairman Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Richard Perle
Deputy Defense Secretary (Former) – Paul Wolfowitz
Under Secretary of Defense – Douglas Feith
National Security Council Advisor – Elliott Abrams
Vice President Dick Cheney’s Chief of Staff (Former) – “Scooter” Libby
White House Deputy Chief of Staff – Joshua Bolten
Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs – Marc Grossman
Director of Policy Planning at the State Department – Richard Haass
U.S. Trade Representative (Cabinet-level Position) – Robert Zoellick
Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – James Schlesinger
UN Representative (Former) – John Bolton
Under Secretary for Arms Control – David Wurmser
Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Eliot Cohen
Senior Advisor to the President – Steve Goldsmith
Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary – Christopher Gersten
Assistant Secretary of State – Lincoln Bloomfield
White House Political Director – Ken Melman
National Security Study Group – Edward Luttwak
Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Kenneth Adelman
Defense Intelligence Agency Analyst (Former) – Lawrence (Larry) Franklin
National Security Council Advisor – Robert Satloff
President Export-Import Bank U.S. – Mel Sembler
Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families – Christopher Gersten
Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs – Mark Weinberger
White House Speechwriter – David Frum
White House Spokesman (Former) – Ari Fleischer
Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Henry Kissinger
Deputy Secretary of Commerce – Samuel Bodman
Under Secretary of State for Management – Bonnie Cohen
Director of Foreign Service Institute – Ruth Davis
I don't want to bombard the article with my comments, but when I was posting the names I had to keep editing my comments that proceeded the list because the "comment was too long".
The list of names is from a few years back but you can get an idea of the power we are talking about - and this is overt power, not behind the scenes power like the media and banking or lobbying power like AIPAC or ADL. All the chokes points are covered and the people with the power are very united. They are a formidable force.
under Reagan is probably most "distinguished" . Gorbachev offered to get rid of nuclear arms .. guess who torn it down - Israeli Perle.
as this would have nothing to do with the information I provided you.
Look how sick of him Obama looks!
A couple of months ago an exchange between Obama & Sarkozy about Netanyahoo that was picked up by press microphones came out:
Sarkozy: "I'm not speaking to him any more, he's a liar"
Obama: "You're sick of him?? I have to speak to him every day!".
The pic above the headline is just a snapshot of that meeting. What you are seeing is domination, Netanyahu is schooling him - Obama has his legs crossed and his hand on his face, slumped in his chair with his arm holding onto the chair, Netanyahu legs are wide open, he is leaning in and using both hands to drive home his position. Obama ends up with his hand over his mouth - the body language of someone knowing they have to keep their mouth shut.
How can Netanyahu have this power? From the Rothschild Central Banking System - headquartered in the Square Mile of the sovereign territory of the City of London. The Federal Reserve is a branch of the "City". Any challenge to the Rothschild financial hegemony is met with the brawn of the US military. No state controlled independent central bank is allowed - anywhere.
Netanyahu isn't schooling anyone - he's boring him.
Lyndon Johnson dropped out of the 1968 presidential race because he knew there was no opposing the Pentagon and CIA. I would not be surprised to see Obama do the same thing.
Netanyahoo is a close friend of the billionaire Adelson who has funded the Gingrich campaign. Netanyahoo has a chance to take over the white house. He is going for it.
I seriously wish Obama could simply and unequivocally tell Netanyahu to go f*ck himself. Clearly this is an idiot we're dealing with. One whose precipitous and reckless actions could have disastrous consequences. Why the hell would Obama agree to a joint strike on Iran? As if we're not already up to eyeballs in Afghanistan and still on life support when it comes to recovering from Iraq! Other idiots we can mention: McCain and Lieberman, of course. As well as those in the Senate who backed a resolution pressing for an attack. Is this collective amnesia? Have they simply wiped their memory clean of what we've just been through in Iraq and what we're still slogging through in Afghanistan?
In any event, if nothing else, people here need to start pushing back on AIPAC, the pro-Israel lobby, which clearly has far too much influence and power on any given administration. In that regard, this is a good site to check out:
http://www.occupyaipac.org/
Seriously. What does the United States gain with war in Iran? Zero. We've been down that path with Iraq and all it did is kill a lot of people for no damn reason. Now we want to do the same with Iran? Forget it!
I know this is a crazy idea, but how about we try to GET ALONG with the rest of the world and stop seeing them as potential enemies? Oddly enough, REAL national security is not pissing off the rest of the world.
And don't forget, Mossad-empowere d LIKUD are already carrying out sabotage on Iranian soil, destroying Palestinian homes and ancient olive groves and are convinced to this day that they are God's chosen people.
Oh aye, -and remember Rachel Corry??!!
...And so I guess this means the US has to change its policy, not Israel?
Although I do not discount the criminally psychotic Zionists' resort to military action (any fool knows that the Zionists' have done so repeatedly), I believe that in this case the Zios are playing us like the proverbial fiddle. By dangling the Ziomilitary action like the sword of Damocles over the collective US' head, Netanyahu, Bouncer Liberman and their insane ilk in Zioland and right here in the U.S. are forcing a feeding frenzy to increase the punishing sanctions to a point where they will strangle the Iranis and elicit a death-throes reaction...whic h the Zios and their fellow travelers would trumpet as a casus belli and triumphantly strike back in massive military fashion. Zio David Cohen, the current occupier of the sanctions seat in our Treasury (AsstSecTreas for Terrorist Financing), is frothing at the mouth in rabid glee as he applies his ZioIsrael-first , well-honed techniques to humbling a sovereign nation. (to be continued)
I'm for a nuclear-weapons -free Middle East. So is every other rational character in this charade (Gen. Dempsey, as above, counts Iran as "rational"); but rationality escapes Zionist Israel and its lapdog United States of America.
I have a very similar feeling to that I felt during the (Zio-driven) 2002-3 run-up to the debacle of Iraq...that pitiable, shattered land and people.
Quoting stiver-aloha@hawaii.rr.com:
I've had that "too long" problem also and reported it to RSN. Suggest you try that. Go to "contact" at the top of the page. They were quite helpful in contacting me personally by email and it got better for a while.
For the record, when was the last time Iran invaded another country? Anybody?
Can you please tell me WHY Obama/Clinton put sanction on Iran? Because Mossad/CIA are killing their professors/scie ntists or because $AIPAC$?
My only question is this: What gives a country like criminal Israel with hundreds of nuclear warheads the right to DEMAND that another country (Iran)should NEVER have what they have??
Probably Obama will make some equivocal statement that can be read both ways. But he will also have a secret agreement with Netanyahoo that does exactly what Netanyahoo commands him to do. Netanyahoo is a bully and a psychopath. He cannot be reasoned with. He's a meglomaniac and thinks he runs the US. There's nothing Obama can say to him. He is not in Washington to listen. He is only there to give orders. The only thing you can do to a bully or a megalomaniac is tell him to fuck off and kick him in the balls as hard as you can. Obama is too polite to do that. Obama will try to "reason" with him. Obama will lose totally. Netanyahoo will wipe the floor with him.
Money culture if AIPAC and Lieberman decide who is a boss.
Remember how congress was jumping when Netanyahoo addressed the assembly. He is our lords king.
The pressure has apparently been put on Russia, they are green lighting attacking Iran and Syria.
snip:
Russia’s Putin backs away from Syria’s Assad
MOSCOW—Russia’s Prime Minister Vladimir Putin on Friday accused the West of fueling the Syrian conflict by backing government opposition, but his foreign ministry said it will not protect Syria from military intervention.
snip:
Russian bank blocks Iran embassy accounts in Moscow
(Press TV) – A Russian state-controlle d bank has closed down the accounts of Iranian embassy staff in Moscow in obvious submission to unilateral sanctions imposed by the West against Iran.
Iran’s Ambassador to Moscow Seyyed Mahmoud-Reza Sajjadi was quoted by Dow Jones as criticizing the measure on Friday, accusing the Russian bank of surrendering to US-led financial sanctions against Tehran.
and keeps the money. The same did US, French, GB banks.
One way how to solve the banksters cash flow.
Why would Russia NOT support USraeli wars and bankrupting themselves? Did USA did anything positive to Russian people since
WWW2?
Who the hell does he think he is telling the United States what to do, anyway.
ISRAEL IS NOT OUR FRIEND!!
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