Madison reports: "The famously outspoken congressman added that he'd bring home troops even from Japan and South Korea. 'Absolutely. And the people are with me on that. Because we can't afford it. It would save us a lot of money. All those troops would spend their money here at home,' he said. Besides, he added, 'Those troops overseas aggravate our enemies, motivate our enemies. I think it's a danger to our national defense. We can save a lot of money cutting out the military expenditures that contribute nothing to our defense.'"
Rep. Ron Paul of Texas campaigns for the 2012 presidential election, 07/01/11. (photo: Jim Cole/AP)
Ron Paul: Flawed Policies Helped Lead to 9/11
21 November 11
epublican presidential candidate Ron Paul said Sunday he thinks flawed U.S. foreign policy "contributed to" the causes that led to the September 11 terrorist attacks, though he stopped short of saying the attacks were America's "fault."
Paul, appearing on CBS' "Face the Nation," said there was a "connection" between U.S. policies and the 9/11 attacks, and that "policies have an effect."
But, he emphasized, "that's a far cry from blaming America."
"I think there's an influence," Paul, a staunch Libertarian, told CBS' Bob Schieffer. "That's exactly what, you know, the 9/11 Commission said. That's what the DOD has said ... That's what a lot of researchers have said. Just remember, immediately after 9/11, we removed the base from Saudi Arabia. So there is a connection."
The longtime Texas congressman, whose popularity has recently seen an uptick in the GOP presidential polls, suggested that American military presence abroad fostered anti-American sentiment - which in turn led to actions against the American people.
"You talk to the people who committed it and those individuals who would like to do us harm, they say, 'Yes, we don't like American bombs to be falling on our country. We don't like the intervention that we do in their nations.' So to deny this, I think, is very dangerous - but to argue the case that they want to do us harm because we're free and prosperous, I think, is a very, very dangerous notion because it's not true."
When asked if he was saying "it was our fault" that 9/11 happened, Paul said, no. "That's a misconstruing of what I'm saying," he replied.
"America is you and I," Paul told Schieffer. "We didn't cause it. The average American didn't cause it. [But] if you have a flawed policy, it may influence it.
"I'm saying the policy-makers' fault contributed to it," he added.
Paul, who has long been vocal in his opposition to sending American troops abroad, argued that America should use diplomacy - not the military - to deal with countries like Iran.
He also decried sanctions as "the initial step to war."
"We have 12,000 diplomats. I'm suggesting that maybe we ought to use some of them," Paul said. "I think the greatest danger now is for us to overreact. This is what I'm fearful of. Iran doesn't have a bomb. There's no proof. There's no new information, regardless of this recent report. For us to overreact and talk about bombing Iran, that's much more dangerous."
The candidate said he doesn't think there is any place in the world where it "helps" the United States to have forces stationed - not only because "we can't afford it," but also because, he said, "I believe we can defend ourselves with submarines and all our troops back at home.
"I think a submarine is a very worthwhile weapon," Paul said. "I believe we can defend ourselves with submarines and [station] all our troops back at home. This whole idea that we have to be in 130 countries and 900 bases - now they've just invented a weapon that can hit any spot in the world in one hour. I mean, what's this idea? This is old-fashioned idea that you have to keep troops on 900 bases around the world. Makes no sense at all. Besides, we're bankrupt. We can't afford it any longer."
The famously outspoken congressman added that he'd bring home troops even from Japan and South Korea. "Absolutely. And the people are with me on that. Because we can't afford it. It would save us a lot of money. All those troops would spend their money here at home," he said.
Besides, he added, "Those troops overseas aggravate our enemies, motivate our enemies. I think it's a danger to our national defense. We can save a lot of money cutting out the military expenditures that contribute nothing to our defense."
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Since your party has already gaurenteed you have no choice with presidential candidate your primary vote is wasted - re-register republican and vote for Ron Paul that will sink the NeoCons in the republican party (the rest of the republican candidates - sans Gary Johnson) and send a message to Obama that Peace is actually important.
In the general election you will have a choice - but only by changing to republican and (hopefully voting for Ron Paul) can you influence your choice for the fall election
Sorry, but there isnt enough money in the world that would ever get me to register as a republican...an d I dont think Ron P is going to fair any better then the rest of them. Everything has to go through congress and the senate, thats where the changes need to be made.
NEVER EVER VOTE REPUBLICAN!
Not Once.
In fact Cheney even bragged that "Reagan proved the deficits don't matter". You want to blame someone, it isn't the current man in the White House. And Ron Paul is just as ignorant as Bush.
Paul supports selling off federal lands, gutting the EPA, and so on. Of course, he won't get the support of the most powerful or the wealthy due to his attitude toward the military, but do be careful what you wish for.
The EPA is passing such ridicules regulations as to force my university to convert from coal to gas because no equipment exists to test down to the levels of dioxins and flurons they demand...they are nuts.
Federal lands were set aside to preserve them, not possess them. Would it delight you to see oil rigs in the Grand Canyon or for mining to eliminate maybe half of Yosemite? If there were no regulations and these lands sold as Paul recommends, that is exactly what would happen.
I work for a game and fish commission and have seen what people are capable of in killing and destroying randomly, not to mention corporations.
Legitimate role of government is to protect those inherent rights and otherwise stay the hell out of the way.
What the leftist mantra on Civl rights is stupid of history and biased towards absolving government of any blame. The vast majority of civil rights legislation was good because it ended government enforced bigotry - Jim Crow laws were LAWS that enforced bigotry at the end of a tax collectors gun. The small part of the civil rights legislation that was not good was reversing the pendulum trying to blame private property owners for a century of bad government enforced laws.
Remember Rosa Parks broke the LAW when she bravely refused to move from her seat.
Certainly, the Jim Crow laws were stupid, but who do you think pushed the hardest to reform them? Do you think there would have been change in human attitudes if the federal government had not stepped in?
There are over 300 million people in this country today. Do you honestly believe they are capable of being sane and working together? What are your answers other than stating libertarian views? Have you truly seen what powerful lobbies and religious groups are capable of in their efforts to control others?
If you believe folks don't need a bit of help in living in civilized times, and if you get the government you wish for, we will return to the good ole days of yesteryear.
Aside from being anti-choice, anti-civil rights, anti-social security, anti-medicare, anti-government safety nets and anti-government -should-spend-m oney-on-anythin g.... doesn't he seem like the IDEAL liberal candidate?
My point is the Ron Paul has only ONE concern: money. And that too much money comes out of his pocket in the form of taxes.
If you want to know the REAL Ron Paul, just understand what he is talking about is HIS pocketbook. That is the real Ron Paul.
So the net effect is that it is very difficult to cast a vote against the war unless you live in one special district in Ohio, or one special district in Texas, or maybe a very small number of other places.
There's a regular poster here who says that if you do not live in a swing state your vote is "free", and i think he means this in the sense that the "mainstream" incumbent candidate will win no matter what, so you at least have a chance to make a clear statement by voting for a third party.
I think he has a point.
The republican hierarchy despises Ron because he wont go along to get along.
And he is kind of an idiot too. But he was my Congressman WAAY before he started running for office so that may have me a little biased.
This does not make him a good choice for President - remember, he had no problem letting the hypothetical coma patient without insurance die.
What Ron Paul missed is that 9/11 was an inside job. The corporate media "missed" or buried the biggest story of the 21st century. Anybody wonder why?
But over spending on global empire certainly is not helping - unless creating enemies is your goal.
Vote for Ron Paul - save America - all other issues are coffee money.
Hope that America Spring 2012 will change the system - end this Money Culture media/ election circus.
99% need to create their own democratic institutions.
NOW IS THE TIME!!!
Here are the details of his economic policy: the government is too big and needs to be shrunk. We need to get rid of all social programs. We need to be isolationist.
As a liberal do NOT ASSUME HE IS LIBERAL. He is not. Do NOT ASSUME he will advance this country, he will not. His ONLY view is money.
I don't think its smart to vote for Ron Pauls because of a few policies which most of us agree with and not take a serious look at his other policies which would devastate so many people if they were inacted.
Being elderly on Social Security I can tell you in all honesty that if anyone on the far right which includes Ron Paul were elected and were able to cut or do away with Social Security , Medicare , Medicaid , food stamps ,fuel assistance and subsidized housing under HUD I would find myself homeless and these are all programs the far right including Ron Paul would like to do away with !
When I worked I had a family to support and my income didn't allow me to save money for retirement so its my only income as it is for many people .
I wonder how they would feel if I robbed their retirement fund and health care ,"that we the tax payers pay for ?
Now there is a big savings ! What job pays health insurance and retirement for life for working just 4 years in that job ?
In practice they did none of what they promised and all of what they'd never even mentioned to anyone. They not only had no plans to get anything good done, they tried to prohibit anyone from talking about their short comings. They tried to prevent people from voting, and when people did vote, they sought to have those votes set aside.
So now what is there left for anyone to talk about in favor of the Republican Party? Nothing at all, except it's gross stupidity!
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