Intro: "Barack Obama has said he wants to launch a nationwide campaign to try to over turn Citizens United."
The Citizens United comments were the most pointed of Obama's remarks on Reddit (photo: Twitter)
Obama Wants to See Citizens United Supreme Court Ruling Overturned
30 August 12
In Reddit chat, president bypasses media to answer wide-ranging questions put forth by surprised internet users.
arack Obama has said he wants to launch a nationwide campaign to try to over turn Citizens United, the controversial 2010 supreme court ruling that allowed massive sums of corporate cash to flood the electoral process.
The president made his remarks in the middle of a chat with the internet community Reddit. He told the site's users: "Over the longer term, I think we need to seriously consider mobilizing a constitutional amendment process to overturn Citizens United (assuming the Supreme Court doesn't revisit it)."
Obama's suggestion that he might confront the issue of corporate money in politics head on is a reflection of how seriously Democrats are taking the huge surge in private funding in the 2012 election cycle. A handful of conservative billionaires have been pumping in tens of millions of dollars to saturate media markets in vital swing states.
The idea of overturning Citizens United through a constitutional amendment has been gaining steam in recent months. Such a move would be virtually impossible to achieve, as it would require ratification by two-thirds of the country's 50 states.
Obama acknowledged the difficulties, but argued that a push for an amendment would be valuable in itself. "Even if the amendment process falls short, it can shine a spotlight of the super-PAC phenomenon and help apply pressure for change."
The Citizens United comments were the most pointed of his remarks on Reddit. The web chat last about an hour, and was so popular with the community's millions of devotees that it brought the whole site crashing down.
"I Am Barack Obama, President of the United States," he began, following the protocol of Reddit's "AMA" chats almost laughably to the letter. For those lucky enough to be able to fight their way through the technical glitches, they were treated to a stream of Obama commentary on questions from the future of the web itself, to space travel and to the recipe of the newly brewed White House beer.
Lest anyone doubtrf that it was the real president tapping away at the keyboard, Reddit released a photo of Obama sitting at a computer, jacketless and with his top button undone.
"Internet freedom is something I know you all care passionately about; I do too," he wrote. "We will fight hard to make sure that the internet remains the open forum for everybody."
He said that his hardest decision in office had been to surge US forces in Afghanistan. "Any time you send our brave men and women into battle, you know that not everyone will come home safely, and that necessarily weighs heavily on you."
And he pledged to make sure "we stay at the forefront of space exploration... The passing of Neil Armstrong this week is a reminder of the inspiration and wonder that our space program has provided."
Obama's forthright comments on Citizens United were not replicated in other policy areas, however. He incurred the wrath of some Reddit members by choosing to ignore their questions about his use of drones to assassinate terrorist suspects abroad, as well as other hot-button Reddit issues such as the on-going war on drugs or Guantanamo.
He also incurred the wrath of those desperate to find out the recipe of the White House home-brewed Honey Ale. "It will be out soon!" was all he would say, though he did add: "I can tell from first hand experience, it is tasty."
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Truth is no gold standard if it can be hammered to bits by the highest bidder on TV.
He hasn't done anything yet. Talk is cheap--especial ly during a campaign. Let's see some action, Mr. President!
With the way that things stand now, We The People are victims of the Finest Government That Money Can Buy.
Article V of the Constitution outlines how to amend (modify) the document. It consists of two steps: proposal and ratification.
1. Propose An Amendment
Either Congress or the States can propose an amendment ot the Constitution.
• Both Houses of Congress must propose the amendment with a two-thirds vote. This is how all current amendments have been offered.
• Two-thirds of the State legislatures must call on Congress to hold a Constitutional Convention.
2. Ratify An Admendment
Regardless of how the amendment is proposed, it must be ratified by the States.
• Three-fourths of the State legislatures must approve of the amendment proposed by Congress, or
• Three-fourths of the states must approve the amendment via ratifying conventions. This method has only been used once, to repeal Prohibition (21st Amendment).
I guess beer is more important.
The only answer is fully publicly financed elections including demanding as part of their licensing agreements that private for-profit tv and radio stations (that get the use of the airwaves, which we own, for free) must provide an equal amount of free air time for all candidates.
That is the Senate that you are referring to. And we don't need more Democrats in the Senate in order to get rid of the filibuster. They could get rid of it at any time by a majority vote. It is just a rule that the Senate made up a long time ago, ostensibly to protect the rights of the minority party, but that isn't what the Senate is for. It was created to protect the rights of the smaller STATES. Each state has two senators, regardless of population; in the Senate, each state of the UNITED STATES is equal to every other state. So it already protects the rights of the minority; the Constitution has nothing to do with political parties and everything to do with balancing the relative power of the states. (That is also the reason for the much-maligned Electoral College.) The filibuster distorts the purpose of the Senate under the Constitution.
Just use congressional power to regulate international and interstate commerce to state that all money in a corporation or other business belongs either to the employees, whose labor earned it, or the shareholders, who own the company.
Make it a felony for a CEO or board of direcors to use money for any purpose not directly related to the core function of that business. Any expenditures for nonbusiness matter such as campaign "donations", lobbying or other must be approved by members of the group that the money comes from; that is the employees or the shareholders.
Such expenditures must specify the exact cause to be funded, whether it is a political party or candidate, and the exact amount of money sought. Any one who votes against this expenditure will get his/her share of the total in addition wages or dividends.
The Citizens United decision was not about free speech of a corporation because it only provided for the speech of an executive who uses money that isn't his. That should be theft.
-mid 17th century proverb
Over the long term ??? This is and has been messing up the country for at least 20 years ... get on it Obama!
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