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Samuelsohn reports: "President Obama touched the sensitive issue of guns here on Wednesday, pivoting off last week's Colorado movie theater shootings to call for a 'consensus around violence reduction' in the country."

President Obama spoke on gun control to the Urban League on Wednesday night. (photo: NBC News)
President Obama spoke on gun control to the Urban League on Wednesday night. (photo: NBC News)



Obama: AK-47s Belong on Battlefield, Not Streets

By Darren Samuelsohn, Politico

26 July 12

 

resident Obama touched the sensitive issue of guns here on Wednesday, pivoting off last week’s Colorado movie theater shootings to call for a “consensus around violence reduction" in the country.

With the last public event of a four-day trip that started with a visit to the Aurora, Colo., hospital where almost two dozen victims were brought after the shootings, Obama said he supports measures to conduct background checks to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, fugitives and the mentally ill.

“These steps shouldn’t be controversial, they should be common sense,” he told the National Urban League conference.

Obama's remarks in the Big Easy about guns were the most extensive of his term, going farther than what he said after the 2011 shooting in Tucson, where six people were killed, and former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) and a dozen others survived gunshot wounds. White House aides have acknowledged new gun laws are still politically impossible in the current election-year climate, but Obama's comments suggest he's at least willing to talk about the issue.

“I – like most Americans – believe that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual the right to bear arms,” Obama said. “I think we recognize the traditions of gun ownership passed on from generation to generation, that hunting and shooting are part of a cherished national heritage.

“But I also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers and not in the hands of crooks. They belong on the battlefield of war, not on the streets of our cities,” he added.

Obama bemoaned the lack of political will to tackle gun issues, noting how congressional leaders have so far shown little interest in advancing new legislation following the Colorado shooting.

“When there’s an extraordinarily heartbreaking tragedy like the one we saw, there’s always an outcry immediately after for action,” Obama said. “There’s talk of new reforms. There’s talk of legislation. And too often those efforts are defeated by politics and by lobbying and eventually by the pull of our collective attention elsewhere. But what I said in the wake of Tucson is we’re going to stay on this persistently.”

Obama said he'd "continue to work with members of both parties and with religious groups and with civic organizations to arrive at a consensus around violence reduction."

And Obama had a message to Americans that went beyond government.

“As we convene these conversations, let’s be clear even as we debate government’s role, we have to understand that when a child opens fire on another child, there’s a hole in that child’s heart that government alone can’t fill," he said. "It’s got to be up to us as parents, as neighbors and as teachers and as mentors to make sure our young people don’t have that void inside them. It’s up to us to spend time with them. To pay more attention to them. To show them more love and they learn to love each other and they learn to love one another and they grow up knowing what it is to walk a mile in somebody else’s shoes and to view the world in somebody else’s eyes."

CORRECTION: An earlier version of this post misstated a quote from the president about background checks for gun purchases. Obama said, "[W]e should check someone’s criminal record before they can check out a gun seller."

 

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+9 # DurangoKid 2012-07-26 19:40
Is there any connection between the US murder rate with firearms and society's general indifference to US imperialism? Just wondering.
 
 
0 # Phlippinout 2012-07-27 06:14
I dont think so!
 
 
0 # HowardMH 2012-07-28 08:05
Obama the Wimp would not renew the Assault Weapons law. Who – Who – Who - needs a magazine that holds 20, 30, 50 or 100 shells? It is the Idiots, Terrorists, Stupid People, Republicans, and the NRA who is making Millions from the stupid people. The NRA has bought all the Republicans and most of the Cowardly Democrats. It is not about having guns, and the 2nd amendment, it is all about the large magazines.
The NRA has done a fantastic job of scaring the Stupid People that their 2nd Amendment Rights are being taken away just because they can’t have magazines with 20, 30, 50 or 100 shells.
It is all about the magazines stupid not the guns.
 
 
+3 # indio007 2012-07-26 21:51
If Obama truly wants violence reduction he should start with the gov't.
 
 
-4 # RMDC 2012-07-27 02:16
Obama is fading into lunacy and this is one of his more lunatic pronouncements. Soldiers on battlefields these days -- at least the ones Obama has any control over -- do not fight other soldiers. They fight civilians. They use their AK 47 and much more sophisticated assault weapons to brutalize and terrorize civilians into submission to Amerikkkan rule. I just don't see how that is any better than a gang of thugs on the streets of the US or a lunatic in a movie theatre. In fact, it is a lot worse.
 
 
+1 # The Voice of Reason 2012-07-27 07:14
Wow. And I thought it was those lunatic, Satan worshiping suicide bombers who targeted civilian women and children to terrorize them into 'submission' to their deranged and blood thirsty religious leaders.

I guess both sides have some owning up to do. But that will never happen. Sides never own up to their own stuff, just the other guy's stuff.
 
 
0 # RMDC 2012-07-28 14:16
It is definitely not the satan worshipers. It is the worshipers of the Judeo-Christian god or Yahweh. This religion has spawned mass murder for about 3000 years. You know, "praise the lord and pass the ammunition."
 
 
+1 # indian weaver 2012-07-27 08:33
That's right. Obama is every bit the war criminal that are cheney, dumdum dubya, rice rove rumsfeld. He is just another arrogant coward and liar, with a big mouth who looks cute but is a murderer and torturer. He's clueless and powerless, just another big little immature boy answering to Wall Street. Nothing will happen that Obama says, hes proven that over 3.5 years so far. Obama has absolutely no credibility.
 
 
+4 # bmiluski 2012-07-27 09:01
He caught Bin Laden, he's pulling troops out of Iraq, he's passed a health care bill (thanks to republicans its not the one he wanted - single payer) anything else he didn't promise?
 
 
0 # RMDC 2012-07-28 14:13
Maybe he caught bin Laden. Throwing the body in the ocean within an hour and a half of the raid says a lot. Why did the special forces play with the bodies of Saddam's dead sons for a week? Normally, US murderers play at necrophilia -- but in the case of the so-called Osama they ditched the body pronto. Pretty strange. My bet is that Osama had been dead for years and the guy Obama's hit men killed was just a nobody. A convenient prop for a publicity stunt.
 
 
+5 # ABen 2012-07-27 02:52
The truth expressed in this statement should be obvious to any rational person; therefore, I suspect the NRA will will go apoplectic.
 
 
+4 # RLF 2012-07-27 03:37
We may need the AK's soon against the pinkertons of the wealthy...histo ry repeats.
 
 
-2 # indian weaver 2012-07-27 08:35
Yes get armed, locked at loaded asap. Remember to load up on those 100 round magazines, buy them off the internet like the Colorado mass murderer and as many arms as you want including Uzis and AK-47s while still legal, on your last trip out to fill up on gas. Both gas and ammo will soon be in short supply, the government will see to that.
 
 
+2 # bmiluski 2012-07-27 09:02
And then we can all go and hole-up in our bunkers.
 
 
-3 # speedracer 2012-07-27 04:06
Obama's 'Gummint Speak' is not too secret code for "Now that the UN has passed its Treaty on Small Arms for America, I don't have to worry anymore about the Gun Control issue." And, that is true in a sense, BHO can blame it all on the UN IF he can get this thing through the ratification process in the Senate AND get re-elected. The Camel is finally in the tent with us. Are we goning to force ourselves to learn to sleep with camel-drool and fleas or will we take umbrage at this usurpation of our Sovereignty and throw the bums out? Are ye men or are ye mice?
 
 
+3 # bmiluski 2012-07-27 09:03
You should of thought of that before you voted republican and got a republican supreme court that made a pro decision on Citizens United. Now we'll never know which country is running our country.
 
 
+4 # Thirdeye 2012-07-27 04:10
The last paragraph shows he (POTUS) is aware of the real problem.
 
 
+3 # Linda 2012-07-27 05:53
Sadly President Obama there isn't too much common sense among gun owners .
I wish gun owners would stop being paranoid about their right to own a gun and stop and think about responsible gun ownership ! Its not a bad thing to have responsible laws in place to protect the public from people who should not own a gun or own assault riffles which as President Obama said should only be used by the military on the battlefield !
That is not taking away your right to own a gun its making sure only responsible people can own one!
Give me one reason why we shouldn't have background checks and why anyone needs to own an assault riffle ,"AK 47," ?
I don't think anyone can come up with one sound reason.
A hand gun or shot gun in your home to protect yourself and your family and a shot gun or riffle for hunting should be sufficient enough for anyone ,you still have your rights to own a gun after a background check clears you !
In my state we do have background checks and we don't see the number of incidence of gun violence I see in states which have no background checks !
Use a little common sense it could save lives !
 
 
+6 # John Locke 2012-07-27 06:16
If AK47's are going to be benned, it should also go for the police departments! Where violence originates today!

Also why do the police need armored vehicles and tank like trucks? SWAT uses these assault type weapons...

Then the obvious next question, how do you, even if they are banned get them off the black market? and insure the criminals and mentally ill people don't still have access to them?
 
 
+2 # phantomww 2012-07-27 07:54
does anyone here understand that our (US) soldiers (military) and police DO NOT use AK-47's? Sure a lot of comments about US troops using them on civilians (wrong), and being in police depts (wrong).
Also, the evil shooter in CO did not have an AK-47. He also did not have an automatic weapon.
 
 
-1 # fliteshare 2012-07-28 11:02
Obama used "AK47" in a figurative way, too bad you didn't pickup on that. He used it because the AK47 is the most prolific, widely recognized battle gun on the planet. Or as they say, 100 million plus customers can't be that wrong. BTW US special forces did use AK's for selected missions.
 
 
0 # phantomww 2012-07-28 11:59
fliteshare,
And please show me where I mentioned Obama in my post! Maybe instead of being so "figurative" you could actually read what I posted. MY comments were about how other people were making comments that are just wrong, as I pointed out.
And yes, I do understand that US SOF have used AK's (although in recent actions I am willing to bet that they were not using the AK-47 but more likely the newer AK-74 which many people mistake for the older AK-47).
Finally, last time I checked, no police depts are using a Kalashnikov (regardless of model number).
 
 
+2 # hd70642 2012-07-27 14:24
The so called assault weapons are really just high capacity semi auto weapons and are not continuous fire (full auto like a Machine Gun)but each round requires a pull of the trigger so empting the magazine is dependent on how fast you pull the trigger . The bolt action enfeild rifle could fire 20- 30 rounds well aimed in a minute . Hopefully none one sane would ever consider outlawing that weapon because of that capabilty and by the way a civil war rifled musket could fire 2-3 rds per minute and did not require 15 minutes to load and fire as Micheal Moore said in his interview Perce Morgan on CNN!!
Although I do not belive gun control is a panacea Mr Moore did bring up some cultual and economic issues that American society more than just sweeps under the rug but bull dozes under the carpet .AS long as Americans are selfish self centered self rightous and look the other way the real problems are never going to be adressed other than return to sender !!!

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/jul2012/broo-j26.shtml
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/jul2012/auro-j21.shtml
 
 
0 # Livemike 2012-08-03 03:51
Notice how the anti-gunners can't do anythning honestly? There was no AK-47s or other full-auto weapons in the latest shooting and they've been in practice illegal for decades. Notice the phrasing too, "I believe" that "a lot" of gun owners "would agree". Talk about argument by implication. Face it gun control has failed, again and again, but Obama is going pulling the same tricks of scare tactics about assault weapons.
 

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