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Weisman and Savage report: "The House of Representatives on Thursday voted to hold Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. in contempt for failing to disclose internal Justice Department documents in response to a subpoena. It was the first time in American history that Congress has imposed that sanction on a sitting member of a president's cabinet."

Attorney General Eric Holder. (photo: AP)
Attorney General Eric Holder. (photo: AP)



Eric Holder Found in Contempt of Congress

By Jonathan Weisman and Charlie Savage, The New York Times

28 June 12

 

he House of Representatives on Thursday voted to hold Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. in contempt for failing to disclose internal Justice Department documents in response to a subpoena. It was the first time in American history that Congress has imposed that sanction on a sitting member of a president’s cabinet.

The vote – 255 to 67, with one member voting present – followed an acrimonious and politically charged debate. Many Democrats walked out of the chamber in protest without voting, accusing Republicans of railroading the motion so they could inflict political damage on the Obama administration during an election year.

The politically and constitutionally charged dispute centers on whether the Justice Department must turn over e-mails and memorandums showing its internal deliberations last year as officials grappled with a Congressional investigation about the botched Arizona-based gunrunning investigation known as Operation Fast and Furious. President Obama has invoked executive privilege to block the subpoena.

In early jostling on Thursday, Republicans repeatedly invoked the death of Brian Terry, a Border Patrol agent killed in a shootout in December 2010. Two guns that had been purchased by a suspect in the gunrunning case the previous January were found near the scene.

“These contempt charges aren’t about politics,” said Representative Rich Nugent, Republican of Florida. “They aren’t about Attorney General Holder or President Obama or anything else but this: A man died serving his country and we have a right to know what the federal government’s hand was in that. It’s clear this country somehow played a role in his death. We need to root it out, find the cause, and make sure this never, ever happens again.”

Democrats dismissed the effort as an election-year witch hunt. They said previously disclosed documents and testimony had established that Fast and Furious was the work of Arizona-based law enforcement officials who were frustrated by the difficulty of bringing low-level gun cases, and they contended that Republicans were seeking to embarrass Mr. Holder for political reasons.

With Republicans in the majority in the House, there was little doubt that the final vote would be to cite Mr. Holder for contempt, as well as to authorize a lawsuit asking a judge to order the Justice Department to turn over the documents.

The only question was how many Democrats representing conservative-leaning districts would cross party lines to join in citing Mr. Holder. The National Rifle Association was pressuring them to do so, announcing that it would score the vote in its report card on how lawmakers approached Second Amendment gun rights.

In the end, 17 Democrats voted yes. They included some of the most endangered incumbents, among them Representatives Larry Kissell of North Carolina, Ben Chandler of Kentucky, and Kathy Hochul of New York. Representative Joe Donnelly of Indiana, who is running for the Senate, also voted yes. The gun group Gun Owners of America released a letter this week specifically demanding a yes from Mr. Donnelly.

The walkout echoed one by many Republicans in 2008, when the House, led by Democrats then, cited two Bush administration officials for contempt in a dispute over information related to a mass firing of United States attorneys.

"We’re going to make it clear we’re disappointed with the process and the superficiality with which this matter has been dealt with,” Steny H. Hoyer, Democrat of Maryland, the House minority whip, said Thursday.

A citation for contempt of Congress carries symbolic weight, but its practical impact is limited because the executive branch controls prosecution decisions.

In the 2008 case, when the parties’ positions were reversed, Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey wrote a letter to Nancy Pelosi, then the House speaker, saying that prosecutors would not convene a grand jury or charge the two officials who were cited, because Mr. Bush had invoked executive privilege over the information Congress had subpoenaed.

The Obama Justice Department has been preparing a similarly worded letter to the current House speaker, John A. Boehner, according to officials familiar with the internal discussions. Because the contempt citation was leveled against Mr. Holder, it appeared that the letter would be signed by the deputy attorney general, James Cole, and would be sent either late Thursday or on Friday, the officials said.

“What Republicans are doing with this motion today is contemptible," Ms. Pelosi said. "Even for them, it’s contemptible.”

Fast and Furious was an investigation by Phoenix-based agents of the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives into a gun-smuggling network that recruited low-level “straw buyers” – people without criminal records who could lawfully purchase weapons – to buy guns, which were then funneled to a Mexican drug cartel.

The investigation, which ran from late 2009 to early 2011, is controversial because investigators, frustrated at the difficulty of bringing cases against suspected straw buyers, are said to have used the risky tactic of “gunwalking,” meaning they sometimes failed to swiftly interdict weapons and arrest low-level suspects because they were trying to build a bigger case.

The suspects under scrutiny ended up purchasing about 2,000 guns, most of which are presumed to have reached drug gangs. In December 2010, two weapons that had been purchased by one of the suspected straw buyers for the network were found at the site of a shootout in which Mr. Terry was killed.

Information has since emerged that the Phoenix division of the A.T.F. had a dispute with Arizona-based federal prosecutors over how much evidence was necessary to bring charges in straw-purchasing cases, and that the division had used similar tactics in at least three other investigations late in the Bush administration – though none of those lost track of as many weapons as Fast and Furious.

Mr. Holder, a recurring target for Republicans, is associated with some of the administration’s most liberal policies on matters like gay rights, civilian trials in terrorism cases and the enforcement of civil rights laws. He has also opposed state voter photo identification requirements.

At a raucous rules committee meeting on Wednesday, Representative Darrell Issa, the California Republican who is leading the investigation as chairman of the House Oversight Committee, said that “during the inception and the participation through the death of Brian Terry, we have no evidence nor do we currently have strong suspicions” that Mr. Holder knew of or authorized the tactics used in the investigation.

Still, Mr. Issa said, he wanted to know more about whether other Justice Department officials knew or should have known about them. The contempt citation focuses on internal e-mails and memos from February to December 2011, after the operation in Arizona ended and as department officials in Washington were struggling with the Congressional investigation into it.

The Obama administration has declined to release the documents, invoking a form of executive privilege that protects agency deliberations from disclosure in order to preserve the candor of internal executive branch discussions.

There is little Supreme Court precedent to guide how far that form of the privilege, which is considered to be weaker than a form that protects communications involving the president and the White House, extends in response to a Congressional subpoena.

Despite Mr. Obama’s assertion of executive privilege, the Justice Department has offered to give Congress several hundred of the disputed documents if Republicans scrap the contempt recommendation. The White House on Tuesday allowed Republican staff members to scan about a dozen of them, which it portrayed as a representative sample. But the two sides failed to reach a deal.

 

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+1 # paulrevere 2012-06-28 15:11
so dems unite to protect a completely inept AG but can't get that kind of unity for real issues like single payer, prosecuting Wall Street criminals, Citizens United, wholesale slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocents and the rest of the infinitely exhausting list of betrayal to WETHEPEOPLE they have participated in over the past decade?

talk about parading about with no cloths and firing for effect...yikes. ..fools no end.
 
 
+11 # Richard Raznikov 2012-06-29 00:13
I guess the truth hurts, judging by the negative rating paulrevere gets here but he's right. Remember 2008 when it was the Bush administration claiming executive privilege to keep Harriet Miers from testifying and the Democrats who cited her for contempt? Then it was the GOP walking out. Now it's the reverse. But the truth is that BOTH parties are playing games while real issues, such as the criminality of the bankers, gets ignored. BOTH parties are engaged in a charade, people, and it's we who are the losers. Please think beyond the 'party' rhetoric and see what's really going on.
 
 
+1 # paulrevere 2012-06-29 07:10
well...my take is that things are so deep in the dung pits that folks are grasping for anything they can label positive...I get that, though in politics there has to be a constant critique or we get what we now got...media sure isn't doing it!

I've been playing canary in the coal mine and at least can post here without an inordinate amount of ad hominem etc...tks for the back pat Richard Raznikov...he sez as he reaches down into the crap pile for more stuff to sling against the wall...sumpinz gotta stick fer pete's sake!!
 
 
+79 # Barbara K 2012-06-28 15:11
The Republicans should be found in contempt of congress and get off their brooms and stop their witch hunts and start doing the job they were elected by idiots to do. Otherwise, they can just pick up their toys and go home, they are not earning their high pay anyway, or the insurance that we pay for for them, and we pay their pensions, while they deny the same to us. They don't deserve all that we pay for them, plus all the bribes and Koch money they get. Kick them out with the Blue Dogs and get real Dems in there to take care of us and get this country back on track again. The Rs are purposely burying us all for their own political gain, like anyone with intelligence would want to keep that despicable bunch in congress.
 
 
+10 # WestWinds 2012-06-28 20:31
I totally agree. Enough of this T-bagging bunch is clearly enough. I'm so sick of this bunch of Yahoos. I hope the Democrats get out and vote this time around and not saddle us again with a bunch of good-for-nothin gs like this crowd in the House, and that's the NeoCONS and Blue Dogs. We need a straight Progressive ticket so we can get this country out of the clutches of the evil-doers and back on track!
 
 
+84 # angelfish 2012-06-28 15:48
If ANYONE should be held in Contempt, not only of Congress but of the American People, it is Daryll Issa, John Boehner and the House-ful of Rogue, Hard Right-Wing Ideologues who FORCE their Will and their agenda on America, all the while ignoring their REAL job, which is to legislate and get our Country back UP and on it's feet again! They are USELESS, like Teats on a Boar Hog! They are mistaken if they think the President will be blamed for THEIR inaction! Their paychecks should be returned to the Treasury because they haven't EARNED a penny since Inauguration Day! NEVER Vote ReTHUGlican! The People, UNITED, will NEVER be defeated!
 
 
+11 # X Dane 2012-06-28 22:25
You are right angelfish, A few days ago a democratic congress man was lamenting that there are about 130 days till the election, but we are only going to be working 30 DAYS!!!!

The majority sets the schedule. And that is: RUN OUT THE CLOCK. Don't do a damn thing till AFTER the election. We can't do ANYTHING, that might be helpful to the president.
These scumbags should not be paid a dime, as you said Angelfish. It is infuriating, that people can't see that Obama tries, but these thugs trip him up all the time.
 
 
+82 # deejaycee 2012-06-28 15:51
Joe McCarthy would be so proud.

This is an despicable abuse of power just to make Darrell Issa front page news and to embarrass the Obama administration. There is no there 'there'. It has been documented that the guns were never meant to cross the border and it was only because of the weak gun laws in Arizona that it went amiss. The Phoenix A. T. F. admit that it was botched because they could not get a single prosecutor to bring charges to the perps, knowing the lax law would not let them win. Darrell Issa knows this and he knows he really doesn't give a rat's ass about the case. He has just been searching for an excuse to hold Holder in contempt. Issa is the one who should be held in contempt and investigated. By the way, did he buy his way out of being prosecuted when he stole a car?

Shame on those Democrats who voted with the Republicans and shame on the powerful NRA for interfering in this case. The whole thing stinks to high heaven.
 
 
+14 # Tazio 2012-06-28 20:18
deejaycee is exactly right...Tail Gunner Joe would be impressed by these shameless characters.
Reformed arsonist and former car thief Daryl Issa is now the richest man in Congress. Really. The Prince of Thieves in charge of an ethics oversight committee, working an NRA directed preemptive strike on gun laws perceived to be possibly in the works.
All the while ignoring the fact that US arms dealers supply the Mexican drug cartels with hundreds of thousands of weapons. Two administrations foolishly screwed up by trying to track only 3% of this traffic and THAT is the Problem?
The crux of the matter is that the NRA doesn't want large sales of semi-automatic weapons to require good ol' US gun dealers to have to contact the ATF.
One unfortunate agent killed by one of the tracked guns and that is a greater tragedy than the killing of 10,000 people in Ciudad Juarez alone? Two thirds of the crime guns recovered by the Mexican police, 60,000 of them, are Made in the USA and it's the US Government that is evil for sniffing around this lucrative business that Issa will not discuss?
Vote to clean up the House of Representatives this Fall.
 
 
+55 # reiverpacific 2012-06-28 15:59
Funny, Dimwits Bush got away with a lot more alleged "Contemptuous" actions and withholding of information, rushed the so-called "Patriot Act" and the march to war through both houses before anybody had a chance to read or digest it, made "Homeland Security" a cloak of secrecy and incompetence -including dumping what used to be well-run FEMA under it, and scribbled so many signing statements that he must have had "Wankers-wrist" -but very little was said about any of THAT by the weak-kneed, time-wasting mass media (BBC excepted)!
Of course, he was guided by some very pre-planned and crafty hands of whom I'm sure y'all can draw yer own conclusions as to the names and sources, with an enabling judiciary.
Horse-pucky to it all!
This is just more of the Rethuglican dirty-tricks machine and a self-righteous theater, set on a media-platform to give the idea-less ones a kick at, and try to beleaguer, the president through the back door!
Blackmail is blackmail, by whatever name you put to it!
 
 
+6 # WestWinds 2012-06-28 20:32
Exactly.
 
 
-53 # lobdillj 2012-06-28 16:03
We are talking about criminal activities that were being investigated by the Federal officer who was killed. There is no excuse whatever to invoke executive privilege in this case. Obama, like Bush before him, is abusing executive privilege. This is not about politics. It's about the executive branch run amok.

So...Democrats are crying Politics! I'm a progressive and I'm noe voting for any president who abuses executive privilege.
 
 
+4 # bluepilgrim 2012-06-28 20:10
It's about politics. The running amok of the exec. branch is old news, and while appalling there is nothing special in this, at this time, except the politics. It's rivalry between gangsters.

So who is supposed to be impressed by this? Republicans who will already vote for Romney? Democrats who will already vote for Obama? Not very many people would change their minds at this point. So is there something else behind it? Someway Holder is threatening the Republicans in some other matter so they want to take him down? (I don't want to spend any energy trying to figure it out, but I'll there is something else going on).
 
 
+10 # WestWinds 2012-06-28 20:33
Executive Branch run amok? And what about the letter the House signed in cahoots with Grover Norquist who isn't even an elected official nor a member of Congress? What the Hades do you call that???
 
 
+2 # Beth Carter 2012-06-28 22:53
A single use does not equate to abuse. Because one cannot imagine under what circumstances executive privilege is deemed necessary that does not mean it isn't.
 
 
+7 # Shelbey 2012-06-29 09:23
This is the first time Obama has used executive privilege. Run amok????
 
 
+42 # CAMUS1111 2012-06-28 16:07
How do you spell "Nazi"? Easy, "GOP"! And don't give me the crap that that is inappropriate. A Nazi by any other name is a Nazi. Today's GOP would indeed throw Jews etc into ovens just to score points.
 
 
+58 # freeportguy 2012-06-28 16:11
“These contempt charges aren’t about politics": of course they are not. They are about politics ONLY when a Republican is at the receiving end...

"A man died serving his country and we have a right to know what the federal government’s hand was in that. (...) We need to root it out, find the cause, and make sure this never, ever happens again.”

I so wish he would feel the same way about the 5,000 troops that died in Iraq after an invasion based on FALSE pretense...

It there is ONE thing the GOP has a shortage of, it is SHAME...
 
 
+42 # Regina 2012-06-28 16:15
What is Issa REALLY running for? Is he hallucinating about what position of power he might get if Romney wins in November? Is he angling to upstage Boehner? His recent machinations on Holder -- like his snarky attack on Sandra Fluke for seeking some voice for women at an all-male-misogy nists' hearing on women's rights issues -- reek of personal ambition far beyond his position as a committee chairman.
 
 
+29 # michelle 2012-06-28 16:21
"In December 2010, two weapons that had been purchased by one of the suspected straw buyers for the network were found at the site of a shootout in which Mr. Terry was killed."

I haven't followed this and don't know the details but I have a question. Two weapons were 'left' at the site of the shootout. Were they on dead suspects or just left at the site? Why would criminals leave behind expensive and difficult to obtain weapons?
 
 
-53 # brucbaker 2012-06-28 16:25
It was simple ... either in OPEN SESSION .. or in CLOSED SESSION .. explain and provide documents.. but NOOOOO ... Eric Holder tried the old BAIT AND SWITCH .. burying the important documents with piles of redacted and unimportant documents.

This is what you get when you LIE, CHEAT, STEAL, and generally have the evidence of fact go against you. Even the IDIOTS in Congress, most of them who were smart enough to hold Eric Holder in Contempt but not those playing the race card to protect Holder, did vote to FIND THE FACTS.

If you are against finding the truth, finding the facts, then continue with your tirade of insults for Republicans and anyone who wants to find the truth.

In America... it is your god given right .. to make a fool of yourself. My question is .. did you LEARN FROM BEING A FOOL ... or not?
 
 
+46 # freeportguy 2012-06-28 17:29
Did YOU feel the same about Bush using executive privilege to prevent Cheney and Rove from testifying in the Valerie Plame outing? Or Harriet Miers in the firing of DAs?

Were you THEN as much of a truth seeker...?
 
 
+6 # WestWinds 2012-06-28 20:36
Yes, do tell. Inquiring minds want to know.
 
 
-21 # cordleycoit 2012-06-28 16:28
Obama has a rotten record of transparency. Secrecy is the watch word and he feels he knows better than people and that is plumb foolishness. Hold is not a man to go to the wall for. He was either rock stupid , barking crazy or sneaky and foolish. The Rethugs are not hero's here either. There is a lot of political dead wood in ATF and ICE needs to be rethought. There are forty some million less than legal people in America benefiting the one percent. There is also an unwinnible civil war in Mexico over drugs bound for the US. And the federal authorities are tied up so deeply tied to the money that it doubtful if they will be separated. Solution: legalize the drugs, stop the in-sourcing, stop the outsourcing, and clean up the mess. There will be plenty of prison beds for the rotten cops and politicians after they free the nonviolent pot pushers and salesmen.
 
 
+6 # WestWinds 2012-06-28 20:39
When it comes to lack of transparency and secrecy, you have no farther to look than George W. Bush. He was all about the secrets. He told us to leave the running of the government to him and "just go shopping".
And what were those NeoCONS doing when they were holding their "Midnight Oil" sessions? Having tea?
 
 
+27 # michelle 2012-06-28 16:30
Here's a list of democrats who voted FOR contempt. If you see your representative, you might give 'em a call and ask why they work for the NRA rather than the people.

Rep. Jason Altmire, D-Pa.

Rep. John Barrow, D-Ga.

Rep. Dan Boren, D-Okla.

Rep. Leonard Boswell, D-Iowa

Rep. Ben Chandler, D-Ky.

Rep. Mark Critz, D-Pa.

Rep. Joe Donnelly, D-Ind.

Rep. Kathy Hochul, D-N.Y.

Rep. Ron Kind, D-Wis.

Rep. Larry Kissell, D-N.C.

Rep. Jim Matheson, D-Utah

Rep. Mike McIntyre, D-N.C.

Rep. Bill Owens, D-N.Y.

Rep. Collin Peterson, D-Minn.

Rep. Nick Rahall, D-W.Va.

Rep. Mike Ross, D-Ark.

Rep. Tim Walz, D-Minn.
 
 
+24 # noitall 2012-06-28 17:18
They're all bought, its a wonder there aren't more on the list. It is embarassing watching time and again, the Republicans goose-stepping together, voting as a block while the Democrats break ranks and add a sort of credibility to the most rediculous things that the Republicants come up with. The people from the listed states have certainly gotten the level of government that they voted for. A little more vetting please.
 
 
+4 # paulrevere 2012-06-29 07:13
no kidding...they' ve taken the dignity of the people's house and given it the smell and visual of hogs snorting and wallowing at a trough...sicken ing that they actually got there by some kind of vote in their districts and states...BOTH HOUSES...NO DIGNITY!!
 
 
+20 # KittatinyHawk 2012-06-28 18:33
Pa Democrats are voting for lots of craps looking alot like GOP Nazis
 
 
+4 # X Dane 2012-06-28 22:50
KittatinyHawk.

Unfortunately, it is more important for these people to keep their seats, than to act honorably.
 
 
+5 # jamjr40 2012-06-28 19:21
Thanks for the list. I will be forwarding it to my e-mail groups.
 
 
+6 # Barbara K 2012-06-29 07:18
Don't forget to add ALL the Republicans, a couple hundred of them, voted for the contempt, so be sure to add them to the list.
 
 
+7 # AMLLLLL 2012-06-28 20:20
This should be called the 'Who's afraid of the NRA?' list. Representatives who stand up for themselves rather than caving are more likely to keep their jobs. Shame on them!
 
 
+5 # Doll 2012-06-29 06:15
Are these all blue dog Democrats?

I know Jason Altmire is one, but he is out because of redistricting. Mark Critz won his seat. Now I have to wonder about Mark Critz too.
 
 
+3 # Barbara K 2012-06-29 07:16
Michelle: Let us not forget that EVERY Republican voted for it. A few HUNDRED Rs voted for the contempt charges. Many more than Dems, not that we are disappointed in the Dems, but many times MORE Republicans voted for the contempt, and we must keep that in mind too.
 
 
+1 # michelle 2012-06-29 16:10
Surprisingly, two republicans did not vote for it. I can't remember which two but you can find in the house vote. Feel free to call the dems who stood their ground and thank them.
 
 
+29 # whatwehavehere. . 2012-06-28 16:34
Why is it the Republicans are always so noisy about everything? They scream foul to the rooftops when they are often guilty of doing the same things the Democrats do. A pox on those 17 intimidated Democrats that are so fearful of the gun lobby that they can't even vote their conscience or support their own, pandering to the GOP gun club! Don't they realize Republicans walk lock step in every nasty trick they pull? How dare our elected representatives bow to a gun lobby of all things.
 
 
+10 # Regina 2012-06-28 21:24
Ask why the NRA has so much control over elections, in their foul ads, their unlimited and unidentified money (thanks to Citizens United), and their influence on individual voters. Ask why Americans are such rabid gun-nuts in the first place, making them A-1 suckers for the NRA line and Fox-nonnews.
 
 
+20 # whatwehavehere. . 2012-06-28 16:35
Speaking of lousy gun laws, if you think hey are bad in Arizona, come on over to Tennessee! Nothing but a gun funnel.
 
 
+22 # isafakir 2012-06-28 16:38
sick demented shrivelled up perverts engaged in homophobia women hating racist sectarian witch hunting. i hope to god some americans begin to see how damaged we've become by this mob
 
 
-26 # Antemedius 2012-06-28 16:43
Maybe the House can call for the Department of Justice to indict Holder?

"Transparency is the best thing." Attorney General-Designa te Eric H. Holder, Jr., before the Senate Judiciary Committee (Jan. 15, 2009).
 
 
-1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-06-28 18:56
Too bad the Congress isn't transparent...
I believe they are since you can see right thru the creeps daily in their actions.

Holder is a creep but prove he is a Criminal...
 
 
-2 # paulrevere 2012-06-29 07:15
well, if you know about a crime, you are culpable...zat werk?
 
 
+51 # Gizmo 2012-06-28 16:47
Where were all those angry Republicans when Bush / Cheney / Gonzales / Feith violated our Constitution?
 
 
+6 # WestWinds 2012-06-28 20:43
Must have been out shopping for shoes...
 
 
+40 # Archie1954 2012-06-28 16:58
The Republicans just love to waste Congressional time and effort for basically nothing. The economy is in severe straits, the unemployment rate is unconscionabler e, wars are being considered all over the world and what do the Republicans want, a political show to waste more time and energy so no important business will get done. What a bunch of treacherous dilettantes!
 
 
+32 # Pancho 2012-06-28 17:04
The NRA will support reactionaries every time. Two years ago they supported Koch-funded candidate Mike Pompeo against Raj Goyle in KS-4. Goyle had supported NRA agendas and Pompeo had none. They have no loyalty in competitive races.

It is helpful to remember the hearing when the Bush's AG testified four years ago.

Maybe Gonzales Won't Recall His Painful Day on the Hill
Washington Post
By Dana Milbank, Friday, April 20, 2007

Alberto Gonzales's tenure as attorney general was pronounced dead yesterday by Senator Tom Coburn, M.D.

"It was handled incompetently. The communication was atrocious," Coburn told the beleaguered AG. "You ought to suffer the consequences that these others have suffered, and I believe that the best way to put this behind us is your resignation."

The AG treated the committee to a mixture of arrogance, combativeness and amnesia. Even his would-be defenders on the Republican side were appalled.

Explaining his role in the botched firing of federal prosecutors, Gonzales uttered the phrase "I don't recall" and its variants ("I have no recollection," "I have no memory") 64 times. Along the way, his answer became so routine that a Marine in the crowd put down his poster protesting the Iraq war and replaced it with a running "I don't recall" tally.
along with that of his former chief of staff, who uttered the phrase "I don't remember" 122 times before the same committee.
 
 
+7 # KittatinyHawk 2012-06-28 18:53
Then perhaps Mr G wouldn't mind a vacation a real home town asylum. People do not have memory should be analyzed. It is not possible for someone other than in a crisis, situation of terror not to have a clue....Think it is time that I do not remember gets thrown out in cases where no trauma can be proven.

Maybe Mr G was threatened with Deportation from Brewer?
 
 
+30 # eaglew 2012-06-28 17:10
I am amazed that a lobby group should be allowed to have so much power that they can intimidate Congressmen into voting their way.
For this we can thank the unlimited money generated by the Citizens Untied Decision.
How very sad that this could happen in America.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-06-28 18:50
I am very lacking on information on this Case of Gun Smuggling but no one should be killed doing their job if that is what they were doing.
Families should not lose their loved ones.

Talking about Arizona....I do not see anyone talking about the bodies of people of different color out there that were shot by not such good upstanding people with jobs in government and goons they get riled up to go after people who may not be illegal or immigrants. i have heard these from people in Arizona and on TV

Stories of bodies from tractor trailers bringing people across for money and to NE for cheap labor, brings Trump to mind. People were left in ditches. Love that Christianity. This story was done by Diane Sawyer on Prime Time TV

American Dream isn't all it is cracked up to be if hatred is the Model.

Eric Holder should probably be shackled in some square for many things. I do not think too much of him. I do know if he is witholding information, he should be man enough to turn it over.
Congress should perhaps get their closets looked into as I am sure there are lots of dirty deed done dirt cheap.
Vote them out,, keep doing so until we can get a Moral Majority and maybe a Better Party System Tired of Dumb and Dumber.
 
 
+6 # X Dane 2012-06-28 23:23
Kittatinyhawk.

You say in the same breath that you do not know much about the case, but Eric Holder should be shackled in some square, for many things. You sound like the republicans shooting their mouth off, without knowing facts.

Please get informed BEFORE you sound off. Your remark is rather racist in tone. "Shackled in some square" You are talking about a black attorney general.
Don't do the republican's dirty work for them
 
 
+11 # sameasiteverwas 2012-06-28 18:56
eagle --

Not sure if you meant "Citizens Untied," but it's an apt description of our unraveling democracy.
 
 
+4 # sameasiteverwas 2012-06-28 19:06
Why don't we Occupy the NRA? If all the progressives out there join the group, we can change their agenda from the inside.
 
 
+4 # WestWinds 2012-06-28 20:47
It's worse than sad, it's criminal.
 
 
+5 # Shelbey 2012-06-29 09:26
I would think that taking a pledge to do something that is contrary to the pledge one takes to serve in Congress should be very closely looked at and considered a disqualificatio n to serve in Congress. Perhaps even treason.
 
 
+20 # wwway 2012-06-28 17:55
The NRA won this test and now it's going for the throat full throttle. When are Democrats going to stand up. I'm disgusted with those sell outs.
 
 
+4 # SOF 2012-06-29 00:54
In AZ you can buy guns at yard sales! Too many guns and NRA too powerful. links to Bush era gun walking -lots more:
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/10/emails_bush-era_embassy_prosecutors_office_approved_atf_gun_walking_tactic.php and from USA Today (Not Liberal Press) -
http://content.usatoday.com/topics/topic/Organizations/Government+Bodies/Bureau+of+Alcohol,+Tobacco,+Firearms+and+Explosives and Huff post: -
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/04/fast-and-furious-bush-administration_n_1076148.html
 
 
+7 # Vardoz 2012-06-28 19:10
Anyone who reelects these clowns are idiots. What a cide show this is and they all are deciding the fate of our lives! Hw dare they.


America's deadly devotion to guns

There are around 90 guns for every 100 Americans yet, despite 85 fatal shootings a day, the mighty US gun lobby is as powerful as ever. In the wake of Trayvon Martin's killing, Gary Younge reports on the country's deadly attachment to firearms.
As we die in the streets the rich and and corporations are continuing to rob and impoverish us. GET RID OF THE GOP!!!! AND ALL THOSE WHO DON'T VOTE IN OUR INTEREST- THEY ARE A PATHETIC BUNCH OF CRIMINALS WHO REPRESENT US!
 
 
+3 # lemscar 2012-06-28 20:30
We need to fox out those Dems who voted ia an attempt to get NRA votes, they should be recallled!
 
 
+1 # Texan 4 Peace 2012-06-28 21:40
Ironic that the NRA was pushing this move, given that they have probably done more than any other group to hinder efforts to prevent the flow of guns across the border to Mexico. The botched "Fast & Furious" operation was an attempt to trace the routes of privately-sold arms that the NRA refuses to let the govt. regulate.
 
 
+3 # X Dane 2012-06-29 13:10
Texan

I am afraid that you are NOT 4 Peace. GET OFF FOX, and get some REAL information. It is all the crazy people buying lots of guns and selling them to other thugs, that cause the problems. READ THE ARTICLE in FORTUNE MAGAZINE.

The NRA should be categorized as what it is: A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. It has people in congress so afraid, that they
vote against what they believe in.

There is something amiss in our country. Why are SO MANY people in love with guns, and admiring gangsters and Mafia bosses like John Gotti?? THEY KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE!

And why the devil can we not get rid of the damned automatic weapons?? they sure can not be used for hunting. They are STRICTLY FOR KILLING OTHER HUMANS!
..... The WHOLE country IS STILL THE WILD WEST.

NO other country in the world kill as many innocent people with guns as WE DO!!
 
 
+1 # Brewsir 2012-06-29 02:53
There were some injuries in the Battle of the Little Big Horn. Many participants are memorable. Some are famously so. Atty General Holder will be shown to be on the side of those seeking liberation.
 
 
+4 # wilhelmscream 2012-06-29 04:29
This was a ploy to hold Holder as a witness against himself
 
 
+9 # tuandon 2012-06-29 04:36
I am sick of the terrorism perpetrated by the NRA. They hold the rest of us in thrall, and they now own the Teabag bunch. This business with Mr. Holder is nothing more than a terrorist incident couched in politicians' empty suits....The stench grows worse and worse on the Right.
 
 
+7 # freeportguy 2012-06-29 05:59
In Arizona, it is easier to buy AK-47s and resell them to Mexican drug cartels than it is to VOTE! Geez, GOP will be voted in forever...

Thank you Jan Brewer and NRA!
 
 
+7 # sharsand 2012-06-29 06:00
These are horrendous times when the NRA can put fear into the hearts of Democrats to vote with them or they'll harass them out of office. But Democrats have to have the courage to stand up to this. If Holder is in contempt, so are members of the Bush administration who started this--but the corporate media is giving that a pass. We know that the real goal of the Republicans is revenge, racism, and the desire to move Holder out so that no one can stand in their way to stop their move to suppress voters in every state and force the aged, students, and minorities to get voter IDs they will never get because they either won't understand it, the media won't inform them, or they are unable to do so. This is the so-called moral-values party that is pro-life until the day the child is born--and then to hell with you--you're on your own.
 
 
+5 # freeportguy 2012-06-29 06:00
BTW, isn't the NRA a UNION of gun manufacturers?
 
 
+6 # paulrevere 2012-06-29 07:15
PAC too!
 
 
+8 # bmiluski 2012-06-29 07:20
GWBush invoked executive privilege 6 times, to: 1)block Congress from documents regarding Boston mob informants and Clinton fundraising tactics; 2)conceal who was at Cheney’s 2001 energy-policy meetings; 3) block Harriet Miers’ subpoena to Karl “Bush’s Brain” Rove regarding federal-prosecu tor firings; 4)conceal from Congress Cheney’s FBI interview about Valerie Plame’s outing; 5)block subpoenas of EPA documents about California’s reducing greenhouse gases and over-riding scientific recommendations on ozone standards and 6)hinder the investigation of harsh interrogation tactics. Neither Rove nor Darrell Issa ever complained then, but they’re both complaining now. Typical republican hypocrisy.
 
 
+4 # oakes721 2012-06-29 08:02
“These contempt charges aren’t about politics,” said Representative Rich Nugent, Republican of Florida. “They aren’t about Attorney General Holder or President Obama or anything else but this: A man died serving his country and we have a right to know what the federal government’s hand was in that. It’s clear this country somehow played a role in his death. We need to root it out, find the cause, and make sure this never, ever happens again.”

Wikileaks rooted it out and they are crucifying those heroes.
 
 
+5 # NuBN247 2012-06-29 09:02
Let's see, the NRA is scoring a vote on the Contempt of Congress action against Atty. Gen. Holder as an indicator of how lawmakers approached Second Amendment gun rights. Wow, allegedly not turning over documents to Congress is now the equivalent of attacking 2nd Amendment gun rights. Unless of course you are Karl Rove or Harriet Miers which makes you defenders of the Republic for not providing documents they did not feel Democrats were entitled to see. Right Wing World, Bizzaro World and the Twlight Zone; is there a substantive difference between them now?
 
 
-4 # tonywicher 2012-06-29 10:29
Hurray! Guess what, folks - the Obama administration makes the Nixon administration look squeaky clean. It's Watergate time - squared!!!! Obama has got to go. This is a bi-partisan issue, folks. The executive branch is completely out of control.
 
 
-2 # tonywicher 2012-06-29 10:43
What was Fast and Furious really about? It was about shipping guns to the big bank's Mexican drug cartels so they could kill off the competition. This administration is dirty beyond your wildest dreams. But that's OK, this was all going on already under Bush. To all intents and purposes, Obama is a member in good standing of the Bush crime family, so little has he changed any of Bush's policies. Maybe Junior will change his name to Barack Bush.
 
 
+5 # Lindy81 2012-06-29 11:58
GOPers want to sue DoJ? I want to sue the GOPers in the House for corruption, incompetence and wasting taxpayers time and money.
 
 
+5 # Lindy81 2012-06-29 12:10
As for Rep Issa (R-CA) isa lying hypocrite! Incomprehensibl e that he gets re-elected--som eone please investigate him. His investigations are blatantly political witch-hunts and he is one of the biggest congressional time waster and tax-payer money.
 
 
+1 # X Dane 2012-06-29 13:24
Lindy81,
AND A SMALL TIME CRIMINAL. He should be investigated on many counts. How was he EVER elected to congress?? Maybe all the money he made on car theft alarms?
 
 
+1 # Trueblue Democrat 2012-06-29 13:14
I long for the day that Eric Holder is taken to jail, denied bond, denied an attorney, denied a specification of the charges and dropped into a windowless cell.

When he demands a trial, he is brought before a special court that has jurisdiction over certain federal cases, where he learns that the case cannot be tried because of "State Secrets."

He is given just a hint at what the charges are when he learns that he will be forever incarcerated with George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Alberto Gonzales, John Yu and Barack Obama.
 
 
+1 # tonywicher 2012-06-29 19:15
Trueblue, you're my kind of guy!
 
 
0 # BSMeterMaid 2012-06-30 10:56
This, looks like business as usual in DC to me. We will never know what really happened!
 

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