Yoo Said Bush Could Order Civilians 'Massacred'
John Yoo and David Cole join a panel discussion on privacy rights, 04/15/08. (photo: Laura Arnold)
he chief author of the Bush administration's "torture memo" told
Justice Department investigators that the president's war-making authority was
so broad that he had the constitutional power to order a village to be "massacred,"
according to a report by released Friday night by the Office of Professional
Responsibility.
The views of former Justice lawyer John Yoo were deemed to be so extreme and out of step with legal precedents that they prompted the Justice Department's internal watchdog office to conclude last year that he committed "intentional professional misconduct" when he advised the CIA it could proceed with waterboarding and other aggressive interrogation techniques against Al Qaeda suspects.
The report by OPR concludes that Yoo, now a Berkeley law professor, and his boss at the time, Jay Bybee, now a federal judge, should be referred to their state bar associations for possible disciplinary proceedings. But, as first reported by NEWSWEEK, another senior department lawyer, David Margolis, reviewed the report and last month overruled its findings on the grounds that there was no clear and "unambiguous" standard by which OPR was judging the lawyers. Instead, Margolis, who was the final decision-maker in the inquiry, found that they were guilty of only "poor judgment."
The report, more than four years in the making, is filled with new details into how a small group of lawyers at the Justice Department, the CIA, and the White House crafted the legal arguments that gave the green light to some of the most controversial tactics in the Bush administration's war on terror. They also describe how Bush administration officials were so worried about the prospect that CIA officers might be criminally prosecuted for torture that one senior official - Attorney General John Ashcroft - even suggested that President Bush issue "advance pardons" for those engaging in waterboarding, a proposal that he was quickly told was not possible.
At the core of the legal arguments were the views of Yoo, strongly backed by David Addington, Vice President Dick Cheney's legal counsel, that the president's wartime powers were essentially unlimited and included the authority to override laws passed by Congress, such as a statute banning the use of torture. Pressed on his views in an interview with OPR investigators, Yoo was asked:
"What about ordering a village of resistants to be massacred? ... Is that a power that the president could legally -"
"Yeah," Yoo replied, according to a partial transcript included in the report. "Although, let me say this: So, certainly, that would fall within the commander-in-chief's power over tactical decisions."
"To order a village of civilians to be [exterminated]?" the OPR investigator asked again.
"Sure," said Yoo.
Yoo is depicted as the driving force behind an Aug. 1, 2002, Justice Department memo that narrowly defined torture and then added sections concluding that, in the end, it essentially didn't matter what the fine print of the congressionally passed law said: The president's authority superseded the law and CIA officers who might later be accused of torture could also argue that were acting in "self defense" in order to save American lives.
The original torture memo was prompted by concerns by John Rizzo, the CIA's general counsel, that the agency's officers might be criminally prosecuted if they proceeded with waterboarding and other rough tactics in their interrogation of Abu Zubaydah, an allegedly high-level Al Qaeda-linked operative who had been captured in Pakistan and in the spring of 2002 was transferred to a CIA "black site" prison in Thailand. Rizzo wanted the Justice Department to provide a blanket letter declining criminal prosecution, essentially providing immunity for any action engaged in by CIA officers, a request that Michael Chertoff, then chief of the Justice Department's criminal division, refused to provide. It was at that point that Yoo began crafting his opinion, the contents of which he actively reviewed with senior officials at the White House. "Let's plan on going over [to the White House] at 3:30 to see some other folks about the bad things opinion," he wrote in a July 12, 2002, e-mail quoted in the OPR report.
The report describes two meetings at the White House with then-chief counsel Alberto Gonzales and "possibly Addington." (Addington refused to talk to the OPR investigators but testified before Congress that he did in fact have at least one meeting with Yoo in the summer of 2002 to discuss the contents of the torture opinion.) After the second meeting, on July 16, 2002, Yoo began writing new sections of his memo that included his controversial views on the president's powers as commander in chief. When one of his associates, Patrick Philbin, questioned the inclusion of that section and suggested it be removed, Yoo replied, "They want it in there," according to an account given by Philbin to OPR investigators. Philbin said he didn't know who the "they" was but assumed it was whoever it was that requested the opinion (technically, that was the CIA, although, as the report makes clear, the White House was also pressing for it).
Yoo provided extensive comments to OPR defending his views of the president's war-making authority and disputing OPR's take that he slanted them to accommodate the White House. He did not immediately respond to NEWSWEEK'S request for comment Friday night.
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We are in deep trouble when our laws are no longer just and our leaders can't tell the difference or could care less, when basic human rights and values are violated, when our highest legal and intelligence officials don't discern the distinction between torture, to obtain confessions, and interrogation, to obtain information.
Why was there no impeachment of BUsh/Cheny--ore even charges brought against them? Clinton was impeaced for cheating on his wife--hardly any of the public's business--and the Cheney Administration is gettting away with unlawful, unconstitutiona l wars against humanity, theft, torture, murder, massacre, genocide, infanticide, lies, lies, lies, warmongering, terrorist activities, terrorizing American public, lies, and more lies...the American government is NOT of or by the people--it is a fascist corporateocracy . And you ar just a number, a pawn, nothing. you are not a citizen, you are a consumer and very expendable.
once while selling homes, a Russian immigrant became a buyer. I was interested in his reasons for comming here, and it turned out to be political persecution. I asked him if in Russia there was not a constitution that would protect him from his persecution. He said that indeed there was a constitution in Russia. He said the Constitution was what GORBECHEV said it was ! SAME HERE MR YOO AND CHENEY FOLKS !
"Should any American soldier be so base and infamous as to injure any [prisoner]... I do most earnestly enjoin you to bring him to such severe and exemplary punishment as the enormity of the crime may require. Should it extend to death itself, it will not be disproportional to its guilt at such a time and in such a cause... for by such conduct they bring shame, disgrace and ruin to themselves and their country." - George Washington, charge to the Northern Expeditionary Force, Sept. 14, 1775
What happened to us? Did 9/11 change who and what we are? How are we to have any respect for the law when it isn't applied to everyone?
Tombstone.
yooj@law.berkeley.edu
here is what I wrote:
Hi John,
I would like you to know that I am sick and ashamed of you and what you have done to the people of the United States and the innocent of the world. I hope that you are someday tortured so that you know what it is like. And I will be writing to everyone that I can at the sorry university that feeds you to see if they can try you for treason and war crimes as an appropriate exercise in the legal process. The world would be a better place without the likes of you, yoo.
As Commander in Chief, George W Bush is guilty of war crimes. Nobody has the right to invade a sovereign foreign power without declaring a state of war. Even the UN is complicit for not sanctioning the US.
Yet, the machine rolls on.
Ive beem trying to tell people for years there are two sets of laws. One for royalty and one for the common folk, just what the founders were trying to avoid.
Now, it is more than 69 years later and even this American administration, the one which was to bring about a new America, is looking the other way.
It sickens me that Obama agrees.
It doesn't seem too shocking to me that the law allows for a massacre to occur or that it falls within a president's powers.
To compare, is this attack on civilians much different from dropping an atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
A president had the power to do that, didn't he? It seems that the bigger concern is to amend the Constitution, if such broad power is to be limited.
Until the populations get together in a majority and protest the crimes of our Government officials - we will not have any resolve.
I think you're right. I also think this country is too big, and too media-paralyzed , to get such a majority all motivated at once. American devolution may be the only solution.
say torture is disgusting.
Let's not forget the Constitution.
We can also go back and read The Federalist to see why the Founding Fathers intentionally limited the war-making powers of the President.
Bush shopped around to find "guard-house lawyers" to approve the evil he wanted to have done. He couldn't find such lawyers in the military so he went to civilians. Bush, like many in power, wanted to have a government of men, not a government of law. Yoo was willing to subvert the Constitution and all that this country stands for.
Well, hell, no.
Mr. Margolis, from where I sit, you've just made yourself an accessory to torture and murder as well as another candidate for disbarment. Sanctioning an argument that the president has the legal right to order another Lidice isn't just poor judgment, it isn't just intentional professional misconduct, it's also criminal lunacy and its perpetrator is a menace to humanity.
I believe that our country has been disgraced and has become disgraceful in it's acquiesence. I still believe in justice and more's the pity. We have a debt to pay and it will be dear. In our hubris we think that we are even bigger than history. The bigger they get, the harder they fall...as when might makes right. God help us.
I suspect you're right, and while I don't have links handy to the relevant comments, I've seen other people speculating that, if he took real steps to actually reverse the decline of our moral and legal standards, he would suffer what Dave Barry once referred to as "an unfortunate shaving accident involving the loss of his head."
http://www.scribd.com/dredeyedick
The inimitable Digby offers this:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/war-crimes-no-longer-exist.html
Balkinization's analysis is here:
http://balkin.blogspot.com/2010/02/justice-department-will-not-punish-yoo.html
...Not that public knowledge of any high crimes will make a difference. DOJ just said it won't.
God save the United States of America.
Others cite that decision to use atomic weapons on Japan. To this day it is unfashonable to question that decision. I'd lived in Japan as a US employee for years and learned just how weakened the country was toward the end of that war, which I am glad we won by the way. But in hindsight it was surely a mistake. We could have picked less lethal targets and achieved the same result and alas, hindsight is usually 20/20.
The point is simply this: we deplore the very tactics that we are all too willing to use to oppose them thus a race to the very bottom occurs. Who is to win the contest to see who can be the most barbaric is the service of dubious interests? Is winning that contest worth it? When, in fact, might makes right, we all lose, and by that standard we are losing miserably.
NewSpeak has arrived.
(1) The U.S. Doesn't torture prisoners
(2) The U.S. water-boarded prisoners
(3) Therefore Water-boarding is not torture.
How utterly convenient, this hypocrisy.
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